Evolution has been Disproven

because if we dont then their chance of learning something is dramatically less.

Your jigsaw puzzle analogy should work like this.Put all the bits in a bag and shake them up.Close your eyes and draw two bits randomly from the bag. See if they fit.If they do, place them to one side. If not, put them back in the bag and draw two new bits from the bag.Keep doing this until there are no more bits in the bag.Through a random process combined with selection you have moved a significant step towards assembling the whole.Now repeat the process with the groups of two pieces. Choosing two pairs at random and seeing if they fit. If they do put them to one side and if not put them back and chose two more.You now have clumps of 4 .Run the process on the clumps of 4 until you have clumps of 8. then 16, 32,64,128,256,512 and finally 1000 you assembled picture or proto-protein if you prefer.Now imagine you have 1000 copies of the jigsaw in the bag and 1000 people choosing. I think most people would be surprised as to how quickly the first completed image would emerge.(RAZD: what are the probabilities on this?)then add a thousand new jigsaws each with a thousand copies and a thousand new choosers. It might take a bit longer to get going but it's near as damn it garaunteed that you will end up with all the jigsaws fully assembled

I was trying to keep it in manageable layers. But yes the whole process should involve 4clumps and 16 clumps randomly coming together.ABE--- And makes it blindingly obvious that with enough time it is almost inevitable that you can assemble a complex item (many, many pieces that must be in a certain order to work) through random combinations + selection.Also if you limited the grab-bag of components to 1000 copies of a picture(L) and 1000 copies of the same but mirrored picture (R ). Then this will also demonstrate that assembling left handed and right handed structures is not a problem as the Bits of Picture (L ) simply don’t fit with bits from Picture (R )This message has been edited by ohnhai, 09-11-2005 11:11 AM

it just kinda happened. Complexity of the inorganic kept on increasing till it discovered the trick of self replication with errors then BOOM, life.Where exactly you wish the line that says life started here... is a subject for debate but fairly arbatary in the gradual change from in-organnic to organic...