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NosyNed
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Message 3 of 75 (127945)
07-26-2004 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Eta_Carinae
07-26-2004 9:15 PM


Have a peek please
Eta, could you look into the relative motion thread? We are getting out of our depth there.

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Message 24 of 75 (128223)
07-27-2004 11:23 PM
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07-27-2004 11:20 PM


Could you look here Eta?

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Message 48 of 75 (128282)
07-28-2004 3:07 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
07-28-2004 1:42 AM


The big bang
Well then, please demonstrate the big bang.
You can listen to it if you want. Just tune your radio off station. A fair bit of the noise you hear is the radio (now) radiation from the big bang. (It was a very big "bang" indeed. )

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Message 69 of 75 (129035)
07-30-2004 7:03 PM
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07-30-2004 6:50 PM


Not Reptiles
I think that dinosaurs might well be reptiles. In a subclass of their own perhaps but I'll check around.
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Not the last word but:
from: ADW: Reptilia: INFORMATION
quote:
The Reptilia, presented as a Class in our classification, includes turtles (Testudines), snakes and lizards (Lepidosauria), crocodiles and their relatives (Crocodilia), and birds (Aves), as well as a number of extinct groups. Reptiles (including birds!) are amniotes; that is, their eggs are protected from dessication and other environmental problems by an extra membrane, the amnion, not found in the first terrestrial vertebrates (amphibians). Mammals (Mammalia) are also amniotes, but they differ from reptiles in the structure of their skulls (especially the regions associated with chewing and hearing), and because mammals have hair and feed their young with milk produced by modified skin glands (mammary glands).
and see
http://www.sidwell.edu/us/science/vlb5/Labs/Classification_Lab/...
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which agrees with this.
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Message 71 of 75 (129038)
07-30-2004 7:14 PM
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07-30-2004 7:08 PM


Distinctions
Yes, there were other reptilia that are confused with the dinosaurian order (sea and air) but the dinosaurs are, at least in some places classed as reptilia.
I can see your argument about warm-bloodedness and such and that may well separate them out at sometime but that change hasn't been made yet.
However, they are NOT closely related to snakes other than that. They are more closely related to birds. I wonder why the bible did't tell Buz that they were cursed into being birds.

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Message 74 of 75 (129043)
07-30-2004 7:42 PM
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07-30-2004 7:15 PM


legless birds..
Oh, of course, those birds.
What family was that, again?
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