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Ophir
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Message 1 of 115 (364952)
11-20-2006 4:20 PM


Biblicists claim that Babel was the mother culture. If this is the case, ancient Babylon was extraordinarily advanced for being the progenitor of the rest of the human race. Their ziggurat architecture, for example, was astonishingly complex.
They used clay to make bricks to better build their structures. They were also skilled potters, which presents a problem given that other cultures that derived from the Babylonians, such as Caral in Peru, had no clue as to what pottery even was. How could an extraordinarily advanced culture like Caral in Peru not have been aware of the uses of pottery and brick-making if they derived from the mother culture of Babel? Clearly, these skills would have been important enough in these times of sheer survival to be passed down to succeeding generations.
Also, what was the purpose of preventing Babel from being built if the people at Caral would later do the same thing? These ancient Peruvians built the largest pyramid ever to be built, possibly larger than the ziggurat which the Babylonians were planning. How did confusing the languages help any if a monument even bigger would be built years down the line after the diaspora of the Babelites?

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Ophir
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Message 3 of 115 (365607)
11-23-2006 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPhat
11-23-2006 7:42 AM


Re: Welcome To EvC
Accuracy and Inerrancy? Geneology and the Flood? This topic doesn't seem to be a perfect fit for either, but my preference is for the Accuracy forum.
I wish to disprove the idea that the world's complicated systems of language poofed into existence merely because the Sumerians had a big idea.
Since cultures pass their skills on to succeeding generations (which results in refinement of the craft), I'm wondering how biblicists (i.e., fundaliteralist Christians, and, yes, they think alike enough to have indoctrinated me cult-style for 15 odd years*) would explain how highly advanced early cultures, such as the early Peruvians at Caral, would not have known the skills of brick-making and pottery. How could it have antedated the Caralians by as much 7,000 years (Japanese pottery goes back that far) and the Caralians, for example, have no clue about it?
If we derived from one civilization who already had this skill so refined that they were in danger of accomplishing the most staggering architechral feat known to man (The Tower of Babel), how could other cultures who followed them not be aware of the benefits of such technology?
* Evangelical Christians all

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Ophir
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Message 8 of 115 (365782)
11-24-2006 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Dr Adequate
11-24-2006 6:20 AM


What do you mean this won't float?
I'm merely looking at the myth from the biblicist's perspective and pointing out an obvious flaw (one of many) in thinking Babel was the first civilization.
If they were so advanced as to know how to construct the Tower--and untold numbers of smaller ziggurats before that--how could their descendants have "forgotten" how to make clay bricks and pots? These skills are passed down; they are not something advanced cultures just forget.
And since biblicists will tell me that the Caralians in Peru, like every other race, derived from the Sumerians who scattered across the globe after the confusion of languages, I'd like to know how they explain their ignorance of the uses of clay.*
It is a cathartic thing for me. I was indoctrinated into believing their pernicious lies for a good many years. I want revenge.
* This is not to put down the Caralians. They were an amazing civilization that lived in peace for 1,000 years and built the largest pyramid on the planet.

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