EvC Forum: Babel: The Mother Culture?

anglagard

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Message 14 of 115 (365961)
11-25-2006 3:11 PM

Reply to: Message 13 by Hyroglyphx
11-25-2006 2:30 PM

Tower of Babel - When?

NJ writes:

If the Deluge and the dispersion really happened then it makes alot of sense. Everyone on earth was once centralized in the Mesopotamian region for over a thousand years. Knowledge increased there, including astronomy and architecture until the Flood took them away. Among the preserved was Noach and his family to repopulate the earth. After the tower of Babel came the confusion of tongues and the people began to disperse. Some cultures have managed to retain their original heritage. For instance, the progenitor of Armenians was Togarmah. Armenians to this very day still regard themselves as the "House of Togarmah."

Sorry, it makes no sense to me. If some flood is responsible for virtually all sediments, how could one locate where any Mesopotamian region was prior to the wholesale reworking of the Earth's crust? Or are you suggesting the sediments were deposited prior to any flood? Also, when was this supposed tower built? Do the pyramids pre-date or post-date the flood and tower?

The significance of the story isn't found so much in the building of the Tower. The tower is just symbolic of man wanting to set himself apart from God. A physical building was never the issue.

Why is the tower symbolic and the flood real? Scottness says in post 11 s/he thinks the story is literally true, there was an actual tower. Where is the dividing line between symbolic and real to YECs and who decides where it lies in this matter?

I think you defenders of Biblical literalism and inerrancy need to get on the same sheet of music because right now all I can hear is a cacaphony of noise.

Edited by anglagard, : add ?

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anglagard

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Message 38 of 115 (366126)
11-26-2006 6:08 PM

Reply to: Message 35 by Larni
11-26-2006 5:41 PM

Re: Tower of Babel - When?

Thanks for the info, it is around the date I think the YECs mean.

However, I do want to actually see a date or date range when this tower was built from both NJ and Scottness as I want to clarify this part of the exact premise of their arguments before proceeding.

So YECs, is around 2000 BCE the date?

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anglagard

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Message 58 of 115 (366421)
11-28-2006 1:31 AM

Reply to: Message 57 by Rob
11-28-2006 1:26 AM

Re: Be babbling on about Babel...

If it's not too much trouble, I was asking for a date, even a date it was begun, like on the cornerstone. You know, one that has numbers in it.

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Message 65 of 115 (366663)
11-28-2006 9:43 PM

Reply to: Message 62 by Rob
11-28-2006 10:16 AM

Re: Be babbling on about Babel...

You sure presume to know a lot about me, including my religious beliefs, from my just asking a simple question.

Also, how stong are your beliefs that you can't even answer a relevant question concering such beliefs without rushing to judge and condemn me for asking?

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