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Author Topic:   could moses have written the first five books of the bible
d_yankee
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Message 3 of 242 (163050)
11-24-2004 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by johntheapostate
11-24-2004 6:29 PM


First, what do you mean by bronze or iron age?
Secondly, Moses did not write the first five books of the Bible...the Levites or the High Priests put together what Moses wrote down in the first five books of the Bible which consisted of the creation history, the evolution of the Hebrew people, and the Law of God. Again, it was not Moses who wrote the Torah per se...but the Torah consists of what was the Prophet Moses' revelations of God for mankind.
Also, books were not even around at the time...that came about in Babylon or Persia,I believe, when the Bible of the time was first put into scrolls actually. But before then everything Moses wrote was actually in stone...the Levites, who were chosen by Moses under God's command, put his writings together and kept it in the ark of the covenant...eventually they were translated into scrolls in either Persia or Babylon during Israel's captivities.
As far as the Prophets, they were put into scrolls during these captivity times mostly written by the Prophets servant who devoted their lives to serve the Prophet and learn from him.

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d_yankee
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Message 17 of 242 (164230)
11-30-2004 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by arachnophilia
11-25-2004 1:49 AM


Arachnophilia
First of all get your dates right before you begin to bring false statements about history...
Abraham was not 900 BC...even Moses was more than 900 BC! LOL!!!
Abraham was 2000 BC...at around the same time of the Ziggurat Tower, check your dates. Secondly, Moses was 1250 BC...way before Nebuchadnezzar.
Thirdly, Babel does not mean ladder of the gods. It means "confusion" or "division". Why, because it was there that the languages were "confused" or "divided". Remember the book of Genesis is not the only historic account of this event. Mesapotamia and Babylonian artifacts and writings speak of this event. As well as many other artifacts and writings of other ancient nations speak of this event as well.
Nebuchadnezzar was WAY after this and WAY after Moses died. In Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon time was where the Torah AND the Prophets, Psalms and most of the Old Testament was taken from tablets and translated into SCROLLS. Israel and Judaism, if you will, as well as all the creation, law, and proverbs and the rest of the Hebrew culture was already there.
The Babylonians conquered and took over Israel at around 700 BC when the King of Israel was Hosea. Moses was way before they even had there first king. Hello!
The Babylon you are mistaking is the Babylon of Nimrod who founded Babylon, before Hamurabi...1750 BC. Nimrod was alive at the same time that Noah was alive. Nimrod was actually Noah's great-grand son. Abraham was living in Ur of the Chaldeans of "that" time. And Abraham was of the lineage of Shem who was the son of Noah.
Nimrod, the founder of Babylon, which was first Shinar before the confusion and divisions of the people...came from Ham, the son of Noah who was immoral and rebellious. He became the first King. He developed the Pagan Religion where he was deified as the God, Incarnate. From there the pagan traditions of Babylon.
Noah, taught his children to follow God and he taught them to read the stars and to wait for a Messiah promised to liberate and save mankind. Nimrod claimed to be this Messiah. He died of course and his wife claimed that his son was his reincarnation...and so goes the religion...

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d_yankee
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Message 22 of 242 (164500)
12-01-2004 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by arachnophilia
12-01-2004 1:46 AM


Re: Arachnophilia
Yes. For more on Noah you must read the Apocrypha and the Book of Enoch. I never said that Moses wrote Genesis first of all. Moses wrote down the "LAW". Many scolars believe that either Moses wrote it down by divine revelation...which most scholars believe this...or a combination of Adam, Seth, Noah, Shem, Terah, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses...the tablets being past down and kept as sacred by the time Moses rises up as the "Lawgiver".
Also I never said that Kings or Chronicles was written before Babylon, so what are you talking about, wiseguy.
Where do you get your information about their not being Chaldeans in Ur in the time of Abraham...it is established history. Hello!
Yes. The Levites did put down things in the Books...but according to Moses...they were God-Ordained to do so.

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d_yankee
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Message 56 of 242 (219588)
06-25-2005 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by johntheapostate
11-24-2004 6:29 PM


Nah...
The total opposite...it should then be re-evaluated when the bronze and iron ages "REALLY" were.

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d_yankee
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Message 60 of 242 (219619)
06-25-2005 9:01 PM
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06-25-2005 4:59 PM


Re: Nah...
No, no troll...just someone who has a life. I'm back though. I'll try to keep up as much as possible.

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