the forgery of deuteronomy

The Pentateuch consists of the first five books of the OT which include: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. There are 4 authors of the Pentateuch which include: Yahwehist, Elohim, Deuteromistic, and Priestly writers. Each set of authors is more than one, thus you have at least eight writers, possibly more. Though the Pentateuch is declared by some to be the writings of Moses, it is proven as false. First of all, Moses died, and the story continues in the Pentateuch. He can't write the story if he is deceased. Maybe that will clear up some of the confussion. Now I want to respond to the original question:

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is deutoronomy a forgery from the time of josiah, designed to malign the north?

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and if so, does this affect its role in the bible, or its meaning?

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That happens to be an unanswerable question, if you are wanting a concrete factual answer. My oppinion on it would be this: No it is not a forgery, though I find it to have errors, as is with the rest of the OT which happens to have errors. It should not affect the role of the bible, or it's meaning, to any Christian, simply because though I would never say that the OT is not important, but we live by the NT. In other words, we do not make sacrifices, we do not make our priests wear certain garments, some of us eat pork, etc.. My point is simply that it wouldn't, or shouldn't, change the way we believe, because we do not practice the OT.

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Angel

Hi PecosGeorge,Unless you are an Israelite, you can't be serious. God chose the Israelites to be His children, and gave them Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai. The Old Testament laws were there to be obeyed by the Israelites only, not by Gentiles. God chose Israel alone as His children and gave them His law. Nowhere in the Bible will we find Gentiles obeying God's law before the death of Jesus Christ, for instance observing the Sabbath, blood sacrifice (for God), etc. The way Jesus fulfilled the prophets is the same way He used to fulfill the law. You may think that Jesus came to continue the Old Testament Law or that he came to add some laws to the old one. But that isn't so.

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Matthew 5.17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall an no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

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Pleroo is the Greek word for fulfill meaning "to come true." To fulfill never means to add or continue.

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Webster: fulfill- to carry out a promise, to do a duty, to satisfy a condition, to bring to an end, to complete.

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Jesus came to fulfill, or to bring to an end, the promises and prophecies concerning Him in the Law and in the Prophets. The Law that Jesus spoke of is not just the Ten Commandments, but the Pentateuch.Christians today are not bound to obey the laws or observe the rituals and practices of Old Testament religion. The Old Testament covenant was made between God and Israel, and it never included Gentiles.

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Exodus 34:27 "And the Lord said unto Moses, write thou these words; for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and Israel."

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Gentiles are not included.The Prophets acknowledged that the old covenant was broken and destroyed by the Israelites themselves, so God promised a new and spiritual covenant which is the New Testament.

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Jeremiah 31:31-34."Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that l will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the Land of Egypt; which my covenant they break; although I was a husband unto them, saith the Lord, But this shall be the covenant that l will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying know the Lord; for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord; for l will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

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Angel

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How interesting that you would think no gentile obeyed God's law. There are too many to name, let's try Ruth, one of Christ's ancestors - let's try Caleb, one of Joshua's helpers, let's try all the non-Jews who followed Moses out of Egypt.

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Didn't that make them an Israelite??? I didn't say Jewish, I said Israelite. Yes, in this case, there is a major difference.

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He came to fulfill it, not to destroy it, not to make it void.

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And He did just that....He fulfilled it.

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Angel

Pecos,
Are you Jewish, if so, did you journey through the desert with Moses? If not, then you are not the Isrealites that I am speaking of, as I said before, there is a difference. Now with respect to this particular post, if you would like to discuss this further, make a post, and I will be more than happy to discuss it with you Jumping from one topic to another gets a discussion off it's original meaning, and I am sure that whoever started this particular topic, would like to talk about that particular topic.

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Angel