Did Adam and eve really have a choice?

Is it really fair to pull the IGOT on folk?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

IIRC, GOD never did throw them out of the Garden for disobedience. He threw them out because he feared they would eat of the Tree of Life.

Be glad to discuss Genesis with you if you really want to.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Oh well.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

As a Christian I do think that the Genesis myth is important, but ususally misunderstood.I think the key point is that it explains that we are supposed to know right from wrong and to try to do right. It's not a FALL but a gift.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I think it is definitely based on scripture.

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Sure. Let's start with the Genesis story.In the story, stories actually because there are two of them, mankind is created, pretty much like all the other animals. But then they are tempted and eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. From that moment on they know, they have a responsibility to try to do what is right. But in doing that, they disobey GOD and so he punishes them, Adam & Eve, as well as the serpent. For Adam the punishment is that he'll have to work for food and shelter. For Eve it's that childbirth will be dangerous and painful. For the serpent it's slithering on the ground and that mankind will fear and hate it.That's a classic example of a folk tale explaining life. It covers why we have to work, why childbirth was the number one killer of women, why we fear and hate serpents and why we're expected to know right from wrong.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Those are punishments for disobedience. That's in the nature of folk tales. The purpose of the story is to explain why we have to work, why we fear serpents, why childbirth often led to the death of the mother and child.The GIFT is the knowledge of Good and Evil.

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The Bible doesn't really say that Genesis was a Fall.Most of the stuff about the wars in heaven and the fight where Satan got thrown down and all that stuff comes from The First Book of Enoch and First Adam & Eve.The Bible says little explicitly. It's a collection of folk tales. Particularly the OT.Genesis is a classic story just like the Just So Stories. They are an attempt to explain the world around the authors.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You know, YOU could ask him yourself. Perhaps you can show him the error of his ways.

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The Bible is a Theological Book. It was compiled over many centuries by many people. It is an Anthology of Anthologies. The Primary purposes of the Bible were to help people learn about GOD and to help people learn about how best to live in a social community.There were other purposes. Many of the stories are collections of the Folk tales of an emerging culture. There are the stories of "us vs them" used to differentiate this small group of people from the masses of folk outside the clan. There are the heroic tales designed to give a sense of self-worth to what was a very small and insignificant people. There are the myths, the Just So Stories designed to explain the world within the limits of knowledge of the people and their time.When the Bible speaks about GOD it can be trusted when the message agrees with the other records GOD gave us.BUT ...we must always remember that the Bible is but the product of Man. When it does not agree with the records that GOD himself wrote, then we MUST go with what GOD says, not what the Bible says.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion