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Author Topic:   God's chosen and predestination.
CK
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Message 6 of 18 (230958)
08-08-2005 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Glordag2
08-08-2005 6:57 AM


Interesting question - it's one that's puzzled me for a way. If the christian Godhead is all powerful, he must therefore know the outcome every event from the start to end of time - he already knows who will pick him and who will not. That to me raises another question - what the point of the rest of us?
It seems to be that our purpose (the disbelievers) is to avoid a planet fall of believers - because if everyone believes, who is going to question faith? and if no-one questions is that faith?
As far as I can see the God you describe (and the one in the bible) creates the rest of us as props in play. A play where he knows all of the props will be burnt at the end. Think about it, the christian god creates all of us knowing the outcome of our existance. Surely far better for most of us to have never existed.
Therefore the christian God creates most of us to burn in hell.

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Message 9 of 18 (230968)
08-08-2005 12:02 PM
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08-08-2005 11:58 AM


That's the other thing that bugs me - what bother giving souls to the damned?

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CK
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Message 12 of 18 (230977)
08-08-2005 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Chiroptera
08-08-2005 12:04 PM


quote:
Hello, nice to see you all again.
As the more perceptive of you have probably realised by now - this is hell, and I am the Devil. Goodevening. You can call me Toby, if you like - we try and keep things informal down here, as well as infernal.
Now, you're all here for eternity, which I hardly need tell you is a sod of a long time, so you get to know everyone pretty well by the end, but for now I'll have to split you up into groups.
Are there any questions?
No, I'm afraid we don't have any toilets, if you'd read your bible you would have seen that it was damnation without relief. So, I'm afraid if you didn't go before you came then you're not going to enjoy yourself very much, but then, I believe that's the general idea.
Right, let's split you up then.
Can you all hear me?
CAN YOU HEAR ME AT THE RACK?
Off we go...
Murderers, over here. Looters and pillagers - over there please, thieves if you could join them, and BANKMANAGERS.
Fornicators, if you could step forward - My God there are a lot of you. Could I split you up into adulterers and the rest? Adulterers if you could just form a line in front of that small guillotine there.
AMERICANS, are you here? I'm sorry about this, apparently God had some fracas with your founding fathers and damned the entire race into perpetuity. He sends particular condolences to the Mormans who He realises put in a lot of work. The Iranians, I'm afraid, couldn't be with us - someone's been holding them in purgatory for the last nine months.
Sodomites, over there against the wall.
Atheists, over here please. You must be feeling a right bunch of charlies.
Christians, ah yes, I'm afraid the Jews were right.
Moonies, maniacs, marmite eaters, male models, masochists, mass murderers and masseurs, if you could take a pew at the back - with the Methodists that is.
Now, you're the lot who used to kill whales, is that right? Ah, yes, I must remember - I've got some strips to tear off you bastards later.
Everyone who saw Monty Pythons' "Life Of Brian", I'm afraid He can't take a joke after all.
Alright now, one final thing - we're trying to implement some sort of exchange scheme with the Lord God Almighty, or Cliff as we know him. Some of you will spend a decade in heaven and we're having some angels down here. Now, I hardly need tell you that you will be expected to behave in an exemplary manner, so, I hope you will do the exact opposite - tear off their wings, use their holoes for frisbee practice, that sort of thing.
Well, I have to go now, but Beelzebub here will show you the ropes
chains,
and electrodes.

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CK
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Message 15 of 18 (230984)
08-08-2005 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Glordag2
08-08-2005 12:19 PM


It's a sketch that Rowan Atkinson (Mr.Bean/Blackadder) used to do.

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