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Author Topic:   Is macroevolution a religion? Should we rename it evolutiontarianism?
MisterOpus1
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Message 38 of 112 (90602)
03-05-2004 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Chiroptera
03-05-2004 3:44 PM


Re: church of darwin
Better hurry with your question -
I think he just edited his post.....
again.

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MisterOpus1
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Message 43 of 112 (90627)
03-05-2004 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by kendemyer
03-05-2004 4:26 PM


Re: remember the materialist mantra
Is everyone discussing macroevolution (the topic of this thread), or abiogenesis?
Funny, I believe it was the former. The latter, of course, has little to do with the former, correct?

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MisterOpus1
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Message 48 of 112 (90645)
03-05-2004 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by kendemyer
03-05-2004 4:36 PM


Re: TO: misteropus
Ken-
Are we talking about abiogenesis or evolution?
Surely an astute researcher such as yourself realizes that these are two separate subjects, right?
Is it me, or is there an influx of creationists coming through knowingly/unknowingly mixing these 2 topics together?

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MisterOpus1
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Message 53 of 112 (90659)
03-05-2004 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by kendemyer
03-05-2004 5:25 PM


Re: TO: misteropus
If we are equating materialist = evolutionist, you are incorrect.
Since abiogenesis has little to do with evolutionary processes, perhaps the evolutionist/materialist chooses not to engage in a conversation that has little/nothing to do with their given field.
So why are you continually referring to abiogenesis when it is clear it has no relation to evolution, but continue to address it as though it does?
Furthermore, why are you willfully continuing to de-rail the original topic at hand? I believe you have some direct questions that require explanation on your part.
Is this your normal practice of argumentation?

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MisterOpus1
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Message 74 of 112 (90974)
03-07-2004 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by kendemyer
03-05-2004 6:35 PM


Re: TO: misteropus
Ken-
I have to say right out that your debating skills are absolutely terrible. First you make a completely baseless charge equating evolutionists to the Taliban, then you continue to change directions and refer to abiogenesis as if it is your trump card against evolution.
What's worse, you have continued to evade everyone's direct questions to you in every single thread you've been involved with up to the present. And finally, when you do decide to grace us with your responses, they are nothing but debunked websites, and nothing more from you in terms of actual argument. You have much to answer for already, so I'll make my question very short:
You do know that there's a distinct difference between evolution and abiogenesis, don't you? Personally, it matters little to me if God put things into motion or not (abiogenesis). What took place after that point in time is of my primary interest, as it is for the rest of evolutionists here. Although there is research in that area of abiogenesis, and a number of theories with some supportive evidence (which is quite a bit more than the positive evidence creationists have on the matter), it is of little concern to an evolutionist. Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that?
And if we are done this side issue at hand, could you please do us the honors and stear us back to the topic of this thread?

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