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Author Topic:   Noah's Flood and the Geologic Layers (was Noah's shallow sea)
johnfolton 
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Message 109 of 219 (85198)
02-10-2004 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by alacrity fitzhugh
02-10-2004 4:41 PM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
randy feagley, Its believed its been 4,350 years since the biblical flood occurred, the theologians believe were nearing the 6,000 year since Adams birth, this makes the flood 1,650 years from Adams birth, you can easily confirm this, as all the ages are given up to Noah, in the book of Genesis, the only other question is did God create the earth in 24 hour days or is Gods day 1000 of our years, etc...
If Adam was created on the 6th day, you could add 5,000 + years since kjv genesis 1:3 (2 peter 3:8), when God moved upon the Face of the Waters, and said let there be light, before Adams birthdate, I take the bible a bit too literally, like if Adam was created on the 6th day, then Adam died before the 7th day had expired, for it says that Adam was not to eat the forbidden fruit or he would die within that day (kjv genesis 2:17), and he died within one God day, if one God day is as a thousand years (2 peter 3:8), etc...It doesn't really matter too much, for the fossils would be young, probably could give corals a bit more time to grow, leaning that at the end of Gods day of rest (7,000 of our years), could of been 1,650 years since Adams birth, and 4,350 years since the biblical flood, or 5,350 years prior to Adams birth God moved upon the face of the waters, making from this point in time 11,350 years have expired, but I'm not a theologian, think this is one of those questions where it really doesn't matter, the fossils are young, were only talking about a few thousand years, difference, If Adam was created 350 years into the 6th day, then the coral, algae, plants would of been multiplying for up to 3,350 years even before Adams birth, adding 1,650 year until the flood, gives you 5,000 years for the corals to be growing excessively fast due to the tropical conditions, before the biblical flood, etc...
P.S. No one knows exactly where into the 6th day Adam was created, I'm using an hypothetical reasoning if the creation week encompassed 7,000 years, and the flood happened on the start of the first God day after the 7th God day, that the earth is 11,350 years since (kjv Genesis 1:3), it only probably matters when trying to explain how corals could of been growing 5,000 years, otherwise its only a few thousand years, fish, birds, man, cattle, etc...were created on the 5th and 6th day, so that only adds 1,350 years, but added with 1,650 years, gives plenty of time for them to multiply upon the face of the earth, up to 3,000 years before the biblical flood, animals lived longer, reproduced, a lots of potential fossils, etc...The 24 hour creation days makes sense too, doesn't really matter as its only thousands of years differences, which is why Snelling has brought serious questions as to the age of his wood fossil, and that you can not age any fossils by the rocks that buried them, so the controversy will rage on, whatever, you can not assume the fossils are old, because the rocks would of dated old even before they erupted out of the earth, etc...
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johnfolton 
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Message 113 of 219 (85240)
02-10-2004 10:21 PM
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02-10-2004 9:15 PM


Re: sun days
Simple, I kind of hear you, think the sun stood still for 24 hours too (kjv Jos 10:13), but believe God rested for 1000 of our years, so its like the morning and evening of each creation day was a 1000 of our years, doesn't say the sun rose and set, though the sun had to of been shining for the plants to grow, probably from day one when he said let there be light,etc...but agree 24 hour is suggested by the morning and the evening, still leaning based on Adam dying within the day he sinned, a watch in the night is like a thousand years to the Lord, not to be ignorant that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, that a thousand years is but a day to the Lord, that the Creation Week was based on the morning and evening of each creation day event, I don't feel its heresy to believe this, 2 peter 3:8, nor for you believing 24 hour days from kjv genesis 1:5, whatever, the fossils are young either way, etc...
Randy, Here a free bible version you can download and calculate from Adam to the Flood, this is all off topic, so take whatever I said with a grain of salt, I'm not a theologian, though would think there is wiggle room for both 24 hour days, and 1000 year days for the creation days, etc....
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kjv 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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johnfolton 
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Message 123 of 219 (85384)
02-11-2004 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by alacrity fitzhugh
02-11-2004 11:42 AM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
Randy, I came up with a total of 1,656 years from Adams birth to the start of the flood, kjv genesis 7:6 says that Noah was 600 years at the time of the Flood, etc...
Adam begat Seth 130 years
Seth begat Enos 105 years
Enos begat Cainan 90 years
Cainan begat Mahlaleel 70 years
Mahlaleel begat Jared 65 years
Jared begat Enoch 162 years
Enoch begat Methuselah 65 years
Methuselah begat Lamech 187 years
Lamech begat Noah 182 years
Noah age time of the flood 600 years
Total 1,656 years

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