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Author Topic:   The Academic Bill of Rights
NosyNed
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Message 26 of 178 (215727)
06-09-2005 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
06-09-2005 5:13 PM


So your predictions are?
So, Faith, since this is not intended to interfer with legitimate teaching not based on religious or political aims what would you predict the use of this legislation will be?
I think it was you who early posted 3 or 4 examples of things which it is intended for. As I recall I have no objection to action being taken on all of those.
What I predict is that this will be used to try to force the inclusion of non-scientific ideas in the science lecture hall. It will be used to dispute dating in geology and evolution in biology. This will be done in spite of there being no good, scientific reasons for accepting these ideas (as evidenced by the lack of evidence presented against dating and the pattern of the fossil record here).

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NosyNed
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Message 35 of 178 (215767)
06-09-2005 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Faith
06-09-2005 8:29 PM


Ridicule and Marks
Ridiculing belief in creationism, however, or grading students down for maintaining such a belief despite a demonstrated grasp of the course content, would come under its provisions.
I agree with you that the marks awarded in a class must come from the demonstartion of a graps of the course content. No problem there.
However, if a professor dismisses a 6,000 year old earth with a degree of humour I would say that is totally reasonable. It is laughable nonsense. It has been reviewed and discussed dispassionatly without ridicule here and in many other places and books. If someone wishes to enter a geology classroom with an idea so thoughly discredited without haveing done any research on the topic then a humourous dismissal is the most cost effective and reasonable answer.
Would that be counter to this legislation?

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NosyNed
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Message 69 of 178 (215862)
06-10-2005 11:07 AM
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06-10-2005 11:05 AM


Re: "Significant Scholarly Perspectives"
Sounds good.

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NosyNed
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Message 136 of 178 (216174)
06-11-2005 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Faith
06-11-2005 1:20 PM


Old or New
One would hope it would deter you from the insulting rude and stupid things you say to me for one thing, but I guess that's a futile hope.
So you are an old testament Christian but not a new testament Christian?

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