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Author Topic:   What if creationism did get into the science class
Brad McFall
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Message 18 of 64 (9192)
05-03-2002 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Minnemooseus
04-28-2002 12:48 AM


Merely as a preliminary consideration?? The "ground" rules, and I am not mocking any one/thing here, then do not call or allow for some discovery (fact finding) only presentation of "mature" science as is?
I was going to suggest a different outcome but looking at some of the rules in the second instance it appears that my approach (such as law of Nature's GOd and "stations" on Earth (networked) in the Declaration of Independence may be included in 1) prior and hence may not be leveraged in this "mock" trial to future science (only past and present) if I understand you correctly MOOSE?

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Brad McFall
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Message 22 of 64 (10566)
05-29-2002 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by TrueCreation
05-03-2002 6:14 PM


Let Hovind's people go -0-

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Brad McFall
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Message 27 of 64 (10660)
05-30-2002 4:00 PM
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04-27-2002 1:37 AM


Moose, after reading this months ICR A&F it seems clear to me that this is NOT the direction that any c/e pedagogy will go. What can happen is that if Cornell does not make the graduate study deal me personally go to court over the undergraudate taught taxogeny the curriculum at ICR precedent type universities could include the development (Wright's "d^2) that was excluded at CU and I see that comptuers facilite its introduction of. But the plan needs a little more work. This would not being battle line into the high school but rather the choice of higher education.

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Brad McFall
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Message 34 of 64 (10801)
06-01-2002 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Minnemooseus
04-30-2002 11:39 AM


Moose, as you probably already know I hold an opinion in opposition to this if i understand you correctly. But we would both be showing our hands before the "game over" sign. For if creations are allowed to be let pass and stoped by consensus you have allowed to be named then I would have had my way by way of analogy to Newton on what homology could become that even the professional scientists on TAXACOM could not get beyond the impossible nature of of. I was thinking that NEON would be that public forum but now I think that indeed creationism will go rather private should the indivudal nature of development continue with the message of Lewontin's triple helix to recieve no support. It can not be that my mother and her generation that believes it understood something from "nature vs nurutre" will outlive my generation generally in time though we do indeed share much the same space/ground. I allways hope it will not come to me proposing to get into outer space to accomplish my biological maturity but age was not enough to grant be biological father status. A little too personal but true.

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