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halcyonwaters
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Message 79 of 83 (15580)
08-17-2002 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by John
07-05-2002 11:01 AM


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I am familiar with some of Behe's work, but please post an example which interests you.-John
How familiar? I just finished Darwin's Black Box. I'm assuming you know his main thrust is that within living organisms, there exist irreducibly complex machines. Machines that there is no easy gradual production of. Machines that have parts, that would serve no purpose, or in fact be detrimental unless it was in it's completed form.
Flagella/Cilium, the Immune System, Messaging, Blood Clotting, and eye-sight.
Pick the one you are the most familiar with, and I'll try to outline his argument for you.
David

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halcyonwaters
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Message 81 of 83 (15589)
08-17-2002 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Joe Meert
08-17-2002 8:40 PM


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JM: I read Behe's book and found his arguments completely lacking in both substance and fact. I especially liked the part where he likens himself to pasteur and Einstein. From reading the book, you understand that Behe accepts macroevolution and an old earth chronology don't you? He merely says god meddles in evolution from time to time? See Intelligent design
Cheers
Joe Meert
Yes, he was very confusing on where his stance was. My guess is he tried to capture both the creationist and evolutionist market.
Is there a certain system mentioned in his book you would want to discuss? I mean, is your general rebuttal of his argument that "Just because we don't know how something worked, doesn't mean it didn't happen?"
If so, I agree completely. I just don't happen to think there is an answer to how systems could have come about naturally. If on the other hand, your response is "No, a way has already been found for these systems to have evolved gradually." I'm not a biochemist, but I'll probably learn a thing or two trying to defend his arguments.
David

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