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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
[B]...but I would support limited content on evidence for biological design and the rapid fromation of the geological column. [/QUOTE] Hmm, this is already done, as far as I know. Catastrophic events are common in the geological record. They collectively act over long periods of time to give us the evidence that we see today in the geological column.
quote: Well, sort of okay if we take out the stilted version of geologese.
quote: Oops! Wrong here. How do you explain the most common epeiric sea deposits such as the Mancos Shale. I have asked you about this before.
quote: Seems like most geology classes are taught this way. Some professors don't even ask the students to agree with them. Just say "Dr. So-and so says..." Even my son's high school teacher said this is what some people believe but the subject is the present status of mainstream science.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Nonsense. Even in HS, they are taught what assumptions are made an why. The sources of error are usually discussed along with applicability of the method. Otherwise, why teach the course! This isn't addition and subtraction we are talking about here.
quote: If you are teaching isochron methods in high school, I think you are way off track.
quote: Seems to me that is what your post is all about.
quote: Hate to rain on your parade, but many christians have reconciled religion and evolution. I don't think that many make this association.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Well, I've only read the books.
quote: But this is not true. Why would we teach it. You have not begun to answer so many questions we have asked you. Why not?
quote: Actually, I was asking YOU to explain it.
quote: The percentage is exceedingly low. Especially when their fields are considered.
quote: It intereprets only some of the data. You have to ignore acres of geological information to come to these conclusions.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Does this mean that you are not going to answer my question about the main deposit type related to epeiric seas? If you can't answer such question, you cannot justify having your introductory statements included in a syllabus.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: I am pleased that you are so knowledgable about geologists, TB. You seem to know what questions we ask, what our biases are, and how basically incompetent the giants of the science must have been.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: The Mancos Shale question. If your flood deposits generate such high velocity, highly polarized currents, then where are they in the shales that are so characteristic of epeiric seas? You have said that the flood generated these currents and that the seas were related to non-marine sedimentation. I'd just like to see this cleared up. And just where did the terrigenous sediment come from in the middle of a global flood?
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
The paleocurrents presumably are mesured from non-shales. The shales formed during intermediate calms. The sediment origin was from highlands or terrain in the path of very fast surges.[/B][/QUOTE] But you don't have time! There is no time for 'intermediate calms'. You have to surge water over hundreds of miles inland over millions of square miles of dry land, deposit all that coal, and then flush it back out 30 times in one year! This is silly. I can't believe I'm having this conversation. And remember, you don't have highland terrain, this flood covered the earth... all of it. You have a choice. Either there is a global flood or there is not! If you call upon the no-mountains scenario to come up with enough water, there are no highlands. If you have enough water to cover the mountains, where does it go during all of these ebb periods?
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Oh I don't know. I can imagine an awful lot. I just don't get carried away with it. However, I am surely impressed that you can tell what my capabilities are. As to the surges. Why are you having surges in the Pennsylvanian only and only in eastern North America? Exactly when did the flood reach its peak? How were there any more forests to be found to form the Cretaceous coal beds if they were all denuded in the Pennsylvanian? Why do we find dinosaur footprints in the coal beds if they consisted of floating debris brought in by the surge and then buried by sand? Please start answering these questions with some kind of data or I cannot possibly take you seriously.
quote: More vague generalizations! Please give us some data.
quote: Where is the evidence for these high heat flows and lower viscosities? Have you seen Joe's website that deals with these issues? We have been over this several times, TB. Why do you simply ignore the data and repeat your assertions as though they are accepted by actual scientists.
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