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JonF
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Message 9 of 233 (80712)
01-25-2004 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by johnfolton
01-25-2004 6:41 PM


Re:
No, what's interesting is that Trixie has pointed out that Walt contradicts hmself, and you are refusing to address the issue.

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JonF
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Message 26 of 233 (80863)
01-26-2004 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by johnfolton
01-26-2004 12:26 PM


Re: Murphy's Law
Nobody lost the debate ... there was no debate because Walt refused to debate.
Joe was ready and willing to defend evolution based on the scientific evidence. Walt was unwilling to acknowledge the foundation of his "theory".

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JonF
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Message 38 of 233 (80907)
01-26-2004 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by johnfolton
01-26-2004 2:44 PM


Re: Murphy's Law
Er, Dan's post was in referencdee to your posting the same claims over and over again and not entering into a debate.

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JonF
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Message 40 of 233 (80917)
01-26-2004 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by johnfolton
01-26-2004 7:08 PM


Re: Murphy's Law
I just checked out Walts site, what I found interesting he didn't mention the bible once
You should pick less easily checked lies. The search engine you have pointed to so often returns about 50 pages containing the word "bible" (most containing many more than one reference), and visits to those pages indicate that he's explicitly basing his theory on the Bible. Examples:
"What Triggered the Flood? ... Later, because of the depth of man’s sin (Genesis 6:5—6), God flooded the entire earth. We may never know just how the physical chain of events for the flood began, but the Bible gives some intriguing clues. ... Although the Bible speaks in several places of considerable subterranean water (see page 274), why would its pressure increase sufficiently to form a globe-encircling crack in the earth’s crust? ... Recognizing that a large amount of water was under the preflood crust, as the Bible states ..."
"How Was the Earth Divided in Peleg’s Day? ... Rising Water Divided Continents in Peleg’s Day? The Bible uses peleg as a verb three times. Two usages, mentioned above, are translated simply as divided (Genesis 10:25 and I Chronicles 1:19). The third use is a division by water (Job 38:25). In the ten instances where peleg is used as a common noun, it always involves water. The New American Standard Bible translates it eight times as streams, once as stream, and once as channels. Therefore, peleg may imply a division by water. ... With sea level much lower for a few centuries after the flood, imagine how many migration paths existed for animals and man to populate today’s continents and islands.6 God’s commands (Genesis 9:1, 11: 4—9) for humans and animals to populate the whole earth after the flood must have been doable. If, after the flood, sea level was where it is today, repopulating the whole earth would have been difficult, if not impossible, for those first receiving God’s command."
The number of hits on "Bible" doesn't even begin to enumerate the Biblical references. Every page is explicitly based on biblical references. The entire site is soaked in Biblical references. If you removed the Biblical references, the only thing left would be Walt's birth date! Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration .. but not much of an exaggeration.
wonder he wanted to bring into play Murphy's Law
Add another to the list of things you don't know ... you don't knwo what Murphy's law is.
Joe wanted to invoke a clause of the Walt's contract that Walt put there. Walt backed out.
it would be a great high school or college text book, to opening students to the scientific evidences supporting creationism,
Thank goodness for the Constitution which protects our U.S. children from such religious crackpots!
Think he probably agrees rock can bend slowly like putty
Thenm why did he write "How could brittle rock, showing little evidence of heating or cracking, fold? Rocks are strong in compression but weak in tension. Therefore, their stretched outer surfaces should easily fracture. Bent rocks, found all over the earth, often look as if they had the consistency of putty when they were compressed."?

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JonF
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Message 42 of 233 (80922)
01-26-2004 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by johnfolton
01-26-2004 8:08 PM


Re: Murphy's Law
I'm glad he refers to the bible, it's the standard
Not for science.
And not, apparently, for you. Ever heard of "thou shalt not bear falee witness"? Are you ashamed of your outrageous lie?
Walt explained how rocks can fold, the rocks exibit a spring like quality, and under pressure it can reorintate its crystaline structure at the atomic level, he said this is refered to as creeping
Then why did he write that the rocks couldn't fold?

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JonF
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Message 44 of 233 (80928)
01-26-2004 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by johnfolton
01-26-2004 8:25 PM


Re: Murphy's Law
Still no apology for your blatant lie? Do you claim to be any kind of Christian?
I thought he said it would have to be evenly applied as slow
No, he said it couldn't happen ... when he was claiming that conventional geology couldn't explain it.
He said that is could happen ... when he needed it to support his fantasies.
Of course there are plenty of fractured rocks. So what?
And you got it exactly backwards ... it's mainstream geologists who say that the pressure must be "evenly applied as slow"; "slow" meaining over hundreds of thousands of years.

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JonF
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Message 48 of 233 (81068)
01-27-2004 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by NosyNed
01-27-2004 1:39 AM


Re: Kidding?

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