Meert / Brown Debate

Crash and MF:After reading the posts from Trixie in question, it appears to me that MF is correct. I've searched the pages she referenced at Walt Brown's book site:

• In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - What’s Ahead
• In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - How to Evaluate Theories

And it leads me to two conclusions:

1. Though Trixie claimed she cut-n-pasted from Walt Brown's site, I could not find the phrases she quoted on the pages she mentioned. I don't think she did a cut-n-paste, and am puzzled why she claimed she did.
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2. Trixie is incorrect in thinking she has detected an inconsistency concerning the strength characteristics of rock. She quotes Walt saying that rocks break when placed in tension:
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   Walt Brown writes:

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   Other bent rocks are small enough to hold in one’s hand. How could brittle rock, showing little evidence of heating or cracking, fold? Rocks are strong in compression but weak in tension. Therefore, their stretched outer surfaces should easily fracture.
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   And then she quotes Walt saying that rocks like granite bend like putty when compressed:
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   Walt Brown writes:

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   If compressive forces are great enough, granite deforms (much like putty)
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   Note that in the first case Walt is talking about tension, while in the second case Walt is talking about compression. I wouldn't think there's a contradiction there, except that there's a little bit more to that first passage. Adding the additional sentence to the end:
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   Walt Brown writes:

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   Other bent rocks are small enough to hold in one’s hand. How could brittle rock, showing little evidence of heating or cracking, fold? Rocks are strong in compression but weak in tension. Therefore, their stretched outer surfaces should easily fracture. Bent rocks, found all over the earth, often look as if they had the consistency of putty when they were compressed.
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   Trixie is quite justifiably confused by this, and Walt's writings are full of similar confusions. Walt has mixed up a discussion of tension with compression, and I don't know that it is possible to tell what he really means here. But in other sections of the book it is clear that he really does understand how rock behaves.

I have a feeling Trixie had a more significant point, but that it got lost while she tried to make this initial point about the strength characteristics of rocks. Maybe she'll let us know if that is the case next time she visits.--Percy

At the outset I should say that I found it exceedingly difficult to sort through the issues of the recent discussion in this thread. I finally gave up and went back to Message 1.Joe Meert says this link is to the original agreement that he signed: It is not the same as the one at Walt Brown's site. This is not a criticism, just a fact. Just as we update pages like the Forum Guidelines here at EvC Forum, owners of all websites are constantly making changes and improvements.Point 4 of this agreement says: Point 22 of this agreement says: This seems pretty clear to me. Given this information, can someone please explain what the current argument is about?--Percy