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Ben!
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Message 34 of 263 (199511)
04-15-2005 4:32 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Phat
04-15-2005 3:17 AM


Phatboy,
Can you answer some short questions about the "orthodox" meaning of "literalism" ?
according to most "literalists" who would claim that the Bible explains itself.
I don't get the difference between this and what Arach did. He read the bible, and his understanding comes directly from the words of the Bible. How (other than that) can the bible "explain itself" ?
Also, what would it mean if we read the Bible and, after reading once, we didn't understand? How could that be if the bible "explained itself" to me?
I just didn't understand your explanation of "literalist," and I didn't find anything helpful via Google or Wikipedia when I tried a fast terms search.

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Ben!
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From: Hayward, CA
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Message 63 of 263 (200255)
04-18-2005 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Phat
04-15-2005 11:53 AM


Re: Inerrency and Literalism:Source of Wisdom?
I understand better now.
My critique of Arachnophilia is that he is using scientific understanding as the arbitrator of scriptural interpretation.
I think there's two things you're saying:
1. When interpreting the bible, we use human powers of reason (of course, we're human).
2. When JUDGING the bible, Arach uses a combination of his interpretation (taken via reason) and scientific knowledge. When they don't match, I'm sure Arach double-checks his scholarship, the scientific knowledge and, if they're still conflicting, concludes that the Bible is simply not describing reality, i.e. is wrong.
Then you're saying that classical literalists take a different way; when they come across a discrepency between scientific knowledge and their interpretation of the bible, then, because their most basic assumption is that the Bible cannot be wrong, they assume that there's error in either:
1. Their interpretation of the bible
2. The scientific knowledge
Let me know if this summary is not quite right. Thanks for the info.

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