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jar
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Message 79 of 148 (339836)
08-13-2006 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Head Eagle
08-13-2006 3:34 PM


Re: WHAT IS AND ISN'T SCIENCE?
In addition, as implied in both Science and Theory, things are held tentatively and may be changed or modified as new information, new evidence is found. Some things, like Young Earth or Biblical Creationism are falsified and so they then are simply tossed in the wastebin and we go on. Other things such as a complete understanding of how Evolution happened are subject to change, revision, evolution and improvements.
Science is a matter of winnowing, truth is held tentatively but that which is false is discarded.

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jar
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Message 113 of 148 (340021)
08-14-2006 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Head Eagle
08-14-2006 3:10 PM


Re: WHAT IS AND ISN'T SCIENCE?
Percy,
I didn't bring it up. They did. We are dealing with interpretation of evidence and religion was presented as the opposite of evolution = rational thinking. Don't I get to know what this term means as it involves scientific rationale?
Not at all. Many of us are Christians and also accept evolution. There is nothing in the Theory of Evolution which relates to religion, even to Christianity. What the evidence does rule out is Biblical Creationism, Young Earth or something like a world-wide flood. They have been totally refuted and should simply be tossed in the pile of good ideas that turned out to be wrong.

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Message 145 of 148 (340203)
08-15-2006 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Dr Adequate
08-15-2006 12:05 AM


on time span
I mean that the theory should have consequences I should be able to test right here, right now.
I didn't know that there was such a requirement for immediacy. One good example is that the Theory of Evolution predicts that there was some land dwelling critter that was the ancestor of the Manatee but it was over 150 years before such a critter was found.
So while a theory must be predictive, is it not that case that often the tests cannot be carried out for long periods of time, either because (as in physics) often we do not have the technology to do the test or as in biology, the predicted critter just ain't been found yet?

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