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Message 219 of 301 (300483)
04-03-2006 5:03 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Son Goku
04-02-2006 8:36 AM


Re: Problems
SonGoku writes:
The Big Bang is often viewed as a high energy environment, but nobody claims it is the orgin of the universe.
It seems it is at least the orgin of spacetime and matter. Of which energy manifest everything. Orgin, originate....begin, begun...lets call the whole thing off.

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Message 222 of 301 (300636)
04-03-2006 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by JustinC
04-03-2006 10:50 AM


Re: Problems
There seems to be a some confusion as to what constitutes a "beginning" and what the word: "orgin" means in this discussion. If there was no space prior to T=0 then there was no time. Now how does one reconcile that space and time existed always if the Big Bang is the point where our physics ends and begins. General Relativity, String, Matrix, M, or any other theoretical phyisics can not begin to have meaningful answers to a event that began our cosmological clock ticking.

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 240 of 301 (300817)
04-04-2006 9:29 AM


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The "causation"of the universe seems to be one of the last stands of theist that God created the universe. When Hawking announced in his book A brief moment in the 80's (if there was no cause, then what need for a creator?) He simply was talking about just this very subject. Something that is eternal and self existant. self causing and self manifesting can not be said to have a beginning. Saint Thomas Aquinas said the same thing about God 400 years ago.
It does not bother me in the least that our universe may be self existant. It does not keep me awake at night that existance my be a extention of a perpetual state of quantum flux.
I am in awe of the fact that energy has in some mysterious way has become sentient to ponder these questions. That out of caos and entropy comes order and life.
As clever as humans have developed, we still will never be able to know all the answers because we will never be able to remove ourselves from the mosiac that makes up the cosmos. IMO.
Be it divine, intelligent, or natural. I am just happy to be here. *edit typo
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Message 246 of 301 (300893)
04-04-2006 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by cavediver
04-04-2006 11:07 AM


Re: Stirring It Up
Hi Cavediver, another option is to just scan your equations from paper and import as a jpeg. Then use a image host. I guess that is still a pain.

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