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Not everyone should get a ribbon for having ran the race. The America that my friend saw and believes in rewards initiative. Equality forces society to lower the bar in order to accommodate everyone which in his mind is socialism. As we have discussed before, America already has some socialist policies and I am not in favor of dismantling those. For example, I would *never* privatize Social Security or Medicare/ObamaCare. Socialism has its place, but in this Country, Freedom should supersede Equality. (In my opinion).CRT is Critical Race Theory, a lofty scholarly discipline that I don't yet understand enough to label. I will mention, however, that singling out people without color in order to raise the bar for people of color will only lead to social conflicts. As for the "Woke Agenda," I see that Encyclopedia Britannica does not mention such an agenda. They do talk about Incrementalism and the ideal of rational decision-making .

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Incrementalism emphasizes the amelioration of concrete problems rather than the pursuit of abstract ideals such as social justice.

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I resist extreme Social Activism, which I think the term loosely means.I usually hear the term "woke agenda" on places such as Fox News.

if you don't understand it how can you be against it? how can you have freedom without equality?

Hey Phat, forgotten this?40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

Look up the organization ANTIFA.Learn the basics Phat.There is no organization ANTIFA.There are many who are anti-fascism though.

DUH!That question is in the Top Ten Stupidest Things Ever Said On This Forum.How can you possibly DISCUSS anything without knowing the arguments of the other side? Then why do you ask?

My brother ran in the city marathon every year. He got a medal every year, even though he was in the back of the pack.Some things are an accomplishment, not just a competition. It rewards the rich. An ordinary Safeway cashier stays an ordinary Safeway cashier. What "bar" exactly? That sounds like a catch-phrase with no thought behind it. So are roads. How is that a bad thing?You and your friend should be roaming the streets in your storm-trooper uniforms, shouting your slogans. Maybe you can learn the English words to the Horst Wessel Lied. So you're a hypocrite. Your right-wing handlers want to be free to take YOUR equality away.

I seriously considered posting the song. What the hell is the matter with me?

Says the guy that inherited a condo and gambled all his money away. Love to see entitled people criticize the poor and refuse to acknowledge their own privilege and stupidity.Too personal? Fuck you. 90% percent of your posts are personally offensive.

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Sun Tzu, Scroll III (Offensive Strategy):

31. Therefore I say: "Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril.
32. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal.
33. If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril."

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(Sun Tzu, The Art of War, translation by Samuel B. Griffith, Oxford University Press, 1963)

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Obviously, to learn what you can about the position that you oppose, or at least do not support.It's also part and parcel of seeking the truth. Or to quote from memory a radio interview I heard c. 1990 with the then-Governor of Mississippi justifying his push for education reform:

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We have already tried ignorance, so we know that that does not work.

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I'm sure that you are well aware of my extremely low opinion of "creation science" and of the extreme moral turpitude displayed and practiced by creationists. Am I just bigoted against them because I "hate God"? No. Rather, my position is based on having studied what their position through their own writings and on decades of very bitter experience trying in vain to discuss their position and claims with them -- HINT: creationists almost invariably refuse to discuss their claims and will do anything they can to derail any and all attempts at honest discussion.My entry into "creation science" and subsequent opposition to it were based on my sincere attempts to "find stuff that supported [their] argument[s]". How else was I supposed to learn about it?In 1990 on CompuServe, another member asked me about my position so I wrote an explanation of how I had arrived at it and posted it in the Science & Religion Library on CompuServe (Feb 1990) and it was the first page I reposted on my first website as Why I Oppose Creation Science (or, How I got to Here from There) (filename is warum.html; "warum" is German for "why?"). From that page:

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[NOTE: In your E-Mail message to me (18 Feb 1990), you said:
> You have stated that you have invain, for the last 10 years, found
> no proof that there is a Creator.(unless I miss understood you) The
> information that I have sent you dealt with the subject. [EGW]

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You had indeed misunderstood what I had said. I got involved in CS in the first place to find out just what the CSists' evidence for creation was. Like the rest of the public, I had heard "creation scientists" claim repeatedly that they have scientific evidence supporting creation. I wanted to see what their "evidence" is.
All I have found so far has been anti-evolutionary claims based on distorted or misrepresented evidence and false and misleading arguments. If there truly is a creation model, then there must at least exist the evidence used to develop that model. So the apparently total lack of evidence FOR a creation model not only brings into question the validity of the "creation model," but its very existence as well.

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In order to offer some testimony and explanation as to why I am so opposed creationism, I hereby write this essay.

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In my late high school and early college days (1968 to 1973), I was very much exposed to fundamentalism and so have already been proselytized to repeatedly. I remain unconverted and disdainful of the proselytizing attempts I see, which include the attempts to Christianize our government in order to use it to spread the faith and to impose it on everybody.

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Although I first heard about creation science from the fundamentalists associated with Calvary at Sunflower and Fairview (Chuck Smith's church in Costa Mesa, Calif -- later moved one block away to become a large complex on Fairview) and from Chick Publication's "Big Daddy," I didn't pay them much attention. What I remember are vague claims of there being scientific evidence for a young earth and Noah's Flood, of which I only heard two specific claims. First was the story of the living mussel carbon-dated to be thousands of years old. I was immediately skeptical of it, but did not have any other basis to reject it at the time. Since then, I finally found a reference to the scientific article that claim was based on and looked it up. The creationists had misrepresented that article, so I was correct to have rejected it.

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Also, there was the infamous story of the NASA computer program that ran calculations of lunar positions back through time, only to stop abruptly at 4004 BC with the error message, "There was nothing before this date." Then when they restarted the program from there and ran it back to the present, they found a day to be missing. The only explanation for the missing day was the passage in Joshua (?), in which the sun was commanded to stand still. Even then, I knew that the story grossly contradicted the function and capabilities of computers and so was impossible. It surprised me when, in this age of increased computer literacy, the story resurfaced a couple years ago (ie, in the late 1980's, about a decade into the personal computer age, in the Sunday supplement magazine in our local newspaper).

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My interest in creationism was renewed at the turn of the decade (c. 1980) by sporadic reports that would filter in to North Dakota (where I was stationed), by a presentation by Dr. Duane Gish at UND (which I could not attend -- the presentation, that is), and by an article in Science 81. Since creationists were obviously still around, I was curious to see if there was anything to their claims, i.e. what their evidence is. After nine years of looking, I have found their evidence to be non-existent (and even decades after that, still no evidence to be found).

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My essay goes on to recount my many discoveries about "creation science".The point is that it is very important to learn about those people and positions that are in opposition to us, especially what they themselves teach. That is why my NCO Leadership School taught us Marxism and Communism, not because the USAF wanted to turn us into Commies, but rather to make us more effective Cold Warriors by knowing our enemy (as per General Sun Tzu) and because we know that ignorance does not work.The example set by the other side, the creationists, demonstrates in real life Verse 33 from Sun Tzu: "If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril."

First off, I DO acknowledge my privilege and stupidity in my earlier struggles with addictions.As far as offending you, I don't worry as much about that because your ideology basically says that one is either part of the problem or part of the solution. Everything is one way with you and several others whom I communicate with.By coddling people who were offended and hurt in life, we are not helping them.Granted we don't help them by being racist or continuing to make the mistakes our ancestors made, but I might mention that many of the "disciples" of CRT, educated and elitist that they claim to be, view virtually ALL White People as racist due to the invisible knapsack of privilege that they were born with. I'm not on board with that type of activism as a solution in our country or on this planet. I will say that if a persuasive enough argument is presented to me as to why I should be on board, I might listen. I'm not simply some white privileged ass. Im human and have had my own struggles in life...struggles that no one at this forum knows about. Tell me to f**k off if you want...you are a gruff old man who wears his heart on his sleeve, but I still listen to you.

You can't have equality without freedom. Ask the people in China. They are neither equal nor free. I'll buy that. Why is everything so extreme with you? We both say similar things about each other. I call you a Marxist and you call me a fascist. We need to rediscover that wonderfully gray area known as moderate. It is not hypocritical to find a consensus.
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But you can have both Dumbass. AND FREEDOM COMES WITH REPONSIBILITIES!

You continue to display your utter ignorance in just about every possible area of life.Of course it is possible to have both greater equality and freedom.You need to stop simply parroting the meaningless slogans that are the providence of most religions and the current fascist GOP. Begin here.Phat, you really don't have to be stupid unless you choose to be stupid.

He is willfully stupid and will continue until the day he dies.

His self-radicalization continues and it looks to me like he has passed the point of no return. His brain has had too much sugar for too many years.