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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: Goodness, gracious, this is too much for you? So, there's no way of you even trying to keep up with those tens of thousands of geologists from all over the world currently doing geology for a living? How long is it going to take you? Too much is happening for me to keep up so I'm taking my time with it. {Snark message hidden - STOP IT - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Snark message hidden.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: Oh, old earth models have been shown to work very well by exploration and mining companies all over the world. It's more than denial. That dogmatic declarative way of telling us what we're supposed to believe, about something that couldn't possibly be proved although it's mere science, ought to be rejected by all, including you. For some reason YEC's always tend to forget about exploration and mining companies on forums such as these. They always forget to mention those. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Faith writes: Yeah, we know. Old earth models work for those exploration and mining companies. That's why they spend billions. Their models work.
Sure they work. Faith writes: This doesn't make any sense. What the heck is 'the physical level of a rock'? You made that one up.
That's because you consistently confuse the physical level of a rock... Faith writes: The outcrops of coals I investigated in the northern parts of the Witbank Coalfield were deposited on deltas, derived from glacial valleys forming in a fresh water lakes. I studied deltaic deposits Faith.
... with the ridiculous ancient age you assign to it. Faith writes: Not the age, Faith. The process. In my case, that's how I know that those coal deposits are very, very old. Those coal deposits were formed on deltas. Not global floods. The level is all you need to know, the age is a lie. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: It sure is a relevant thread. The earth is very, very old. This is the thread to discuss it.
This isn't the thread for it but if you want to start another to defend your contention that what you are calling a delta was ever really a delta, and why it matters whether it was a delta or not, I'd be interested.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: And missed South Africa. So much for being global.
The chalk is a layer like all the layers laid down in the Flood. It extends from the UK to the Middle East.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: You're starting to get it, Faith. There's is not even one stratigraphic column that's is literally global. In fact, all stratigraphic columns are different every few metres. It seems as if you're starting to get to it. That's basic geology.
So much for being global? My my. I don't think there's a single stratigraphic column that is literally global. Why should there be? Faith writes: Really? How so? The stratigraphic columns to the south of my house are completely different from the ones to the north of my house. Just one of the usual nonsensical notions people come up with to try to debunk the Flood. Pathetic really. (To the geologists here; my house is built on the northward facing slopes of hills formed by the upper quartzites of the Transvaal Sequence, dipping south, while the contact between the Transvaal Sequence and the Bushveld Igneous Complex runs east-west around 50 to 100 m north of my house). Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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I'm still trying to figure this one out. Just the two first photos. The white chalk cliffs of Dover and a band of sandstones somewhere America were formed by a global flood because they both are white? Really?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
We have our chunk of lead,.. I completely and utterly object to this. We don't get 'chunks' of lead. We do find lead containing minerals. My favourite is Galena. It's absolutely beautiful. And heavy, too. It's lead grey, it has a metallic lustre and a grey streak; it's opaque in thin section and is white in polished section. It's space group is Fm3m. It' gets decomposed by sulpheric acid. Galena also is one of the most abundant and widely distributed sulfide minerals. It crystallizes in the cubic crystal system often showing octahedral forms. It is often associated with the minerals sphalerite, calcite and fluorite. I't cleavage is [001] perfect and [111] parting. It's twinning shows penetration and contact twinning on {111}, with lamellar and deformation twins on other plains. I tend to love lead-containing minerals. Sorry, I responded to the wrong message! Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Faith writes: Nope, you don't. You believe it. ... but I certainly DO know that there was a worldwide Flood,... Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Faith writes: Actually, those "strata" do look quite similar to quite a lot of "strata" found in the Beaufort-, Molteno-, Elliott- and Clarens Formations of the Karoo Sequence.
The Martian strata don't look much like Earth's,...
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ringo writes: One Flood would deposit a "layer" grading from course and big and huge at the bottom grading to very fine at the top. One layer grading from course at the bottom to fine at the top. How would One Giant Flood cause a lot of layers of the same material and the same thickness? Wouldn't you expect One Giant Layer? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
ringo writes: Yeah, just magic.
But Faith has decreed that the Flood "would be different" from everything we've ever observed and every experiment we've ever done. Yet there was no violation of physical laws and no miracle.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
You should also add that we have evidence for the assumptions used.
Unlike what happens in Creationism, those assumptions in science are not wild guesses being pulled out of some random anus. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Admin writes: I'm not too sure what you mean by the word "dissipates". Could you explain what you mean with the word "dissipates"?
Playing devil's advocate, don't these assumptions completely undermine radiometric dating? If most of the daughter element dissipates,...
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Admin writes: Not really. Crystals at formation under conditions on earth can't incorporate inert gases into the crystal lattices. Basic chemistry. Thank you for the clarifications about assumptions used in radiometric dating. Trying to summarizeAssumption 1: The sample has not been compromised in a way that has altered the concentrations of parent and daughter elements. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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