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Message 20 of 108 (762918)
07-17-2015 9:48 PM
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07-17-2015 9:20 PM


how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
AA writes:
Just a note: I find it incredible that liberals can find fault with Scalia’s well balanced dissenting opinion as they accept the twisted and convoluted logic required to make sense of Roberts and the liberal majorities unconstitutional decision. Nuff said on this issue.
Not quite "nuff".
Can you point to an unconstitutional decision that SCOTUS has made or at the least explain how SOCTUS could make an unconstitutional decision?
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Message 22 of 108 (762923)
07-17-2015 10:13 PM
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07-17-2015 9:59 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
So yet again you offer no support or evidence or reasoning or anything more than
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I ask yet again: "how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?"
What unconstitutional decisions has the SCOTUS made?

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Message 27 of 108 (762946)
07-18-2015 8:43 AM
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07-18-2015 1:02 AM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Except they did not make a law.

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Message 43 of 108 (763001)
07-19-2015 11:47 AM
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07-19-2015 11:43 AM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
If the bill originated in the senate, it is unconstitutional because of the revenue raising "penalty" was part of the bill.
Fortunately for the US, thank God, regardless of what you believe it is not unconstitutional if the SCOTUS says it is not unconstitutional. Remember, the Constitution is only one of the three sources for Supreme Laws of the land.

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Message 52 of 108 (763014)
07-19-2015 2:16 PM
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07-19-2015 12:46 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
If the SCOTUS says something is Constitutional then by definition it is Constitutional.
But that of course is totally irrelevant in this case since the bill originated in the House.

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Message 61 of 108 (763029)
07-19-2015 5:58 PM
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07-19-2015 5:46 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Actually, all that episode showed is that the current crop of Republican voters are even more ignorant than the current crop of Republican politicians and I did not think that was possible.

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Message 66 of 108 (763034)
07-19-2015 6:26 PM
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07-19-2015 6:05 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
What have I left out that I have not gone over many times here at EvC; the fact that today's so called conservatives are just incipient fascists wannabees who are totally clueless about Conservatism, reality, morality, empathy, US history, reason, logic, the Constitution or empathy?
This thread is a great piece of evidence.
Examples: not knowing and understanding that if the SCOTUS says something is constitutional it is constitutional.
Not knowing and understanding that that is not new news but long settled reality.
Thinking that the Scotus passed a law.
Not knowing and understanding that the bill under discussion did originate in the House.
Today's conservatives seem to suffer from all of the worst traits of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and explain why they should be seen as the greatest threat the US faces and maybe the greatest threat to the rest of the world.

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Message 70 of 108 (763040)
07-19-2015 9:07 PM
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07-19-2015 8:36 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Are you calling me a fascist?
If you are part of what calls themselves conservatives today then yes, of course.
To say something is settled and label people who disagree as idiots or fascist is totalitarian in nature to m
I did not label anyone as an idiot, in fact just the opposite, the folk selling such nonsense to the current Republicans are certainly not idiots, they know the audience is ignorant, gullible and preconditioned to think in bumper stickers and to be totally out of touch with reality.
That does not change the fact that the issue really is settled and has been for a long long time.
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Message 73 of 108 (763044)
07-19-2015 9:32 PM
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07-19-2015 9:30 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
The sort of fascists who disagree with you about constitutional law are so very different from the fascists who started a world war and committed genocide that I almost think there should be a different name for them.
Fortunately Fascism comes in many flavors already much like Christianity including Christian Fascism.

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Message 75 of 108 (763046)
07-19-2015 9:38 PM
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07-19-2015 9:35 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Interesting response although I will admit I have no idea what you are saying or how you would justify your assertion.

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Message 84 of 108 (763058)
07-20-2015 7:56 AM
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07-20-2015 1:29 AM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Perhaps you should learn something about Fascism and no where did I mention or suggest any connection to killing.
Fascism, like Christianity, is not monotheistic.

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Message 85 of 108 (763063)
07-20-2015 8:21 AM
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07-20-2015 12:32 AM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
Fascism is an authoritarian right wing political system (see The Authoritarians). It is ultranationalistic; usually supporting a mixed economy but often promoting autarky; supporting a strong military that should be used to project the power of the nation even to the extent of influencing other nations; believe that resources should be used and that the nation has a right to needed resources even when they are held by some other nation; fear immigration and changes in demographics; have a strong religious association; believe that the role of the government is to remove obstacles to industry; are antiliberalism and anti-communist; overly concerned with the Myth of Decline and promoting a masculine role and authority.

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Message 99 of 108 (763100)
07-20-2015 9:10 PM
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07-20-2015 8:57 PM


Re: how can the Supreme Court make an unconstitutional decision?
It seems to me that although it may be "constitutional" it seems rather unethical. Its a shell game.
I'm not sure unethical is applicable but it definitely is a shell game and has been going on as long as I have been following Congress so well over a half century. Unfortunately it is not a tactic most folk are aware of; yet another example of the failure of our educational system. It's stuff like this, the boring details of how the US governs itself that we really need to be teaching the kids.

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