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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
Tempe 12ft Chicken
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From: Tempe, Az.
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Message 993 of 1310 (769004)
09-15-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 978 by ScottRP
09-15-2015 12:37 AM


ScottRP writes:
Anyone who cannot understand that this is a photograph of a flying human spirit is one thick-headed person.
I see the spirit of a tree...You can see the trunk near the center of the mass and moving downward with the branches and foliage making a much larger mass above the trunk. I mean, all you are playing here is what do you see in this object and any human will see something different because it is just something our brains do with any pattern, they try to resolve it to what we know.
Do you notice that on every ghost show they seem unsure of what they saw or heard until one member states what they saw/heard and then everybody seems to be on the same page. "Oh yeah, It totally did sound like it said Zack!" The human mind reads into patterns for recognition, this is a known phenomenon. What evidence (outside of the pictures) do you have that this is not what is occurring for you? How can we verify that this is a spirit and not pareidolia caused by the human brain seeking recognition in patterns? Scriptures are not sufficient evidence since plenty of those also lack any sort of corroborating evidence. Explain how we could possibly test for this without receiving false positives due to dust, bugs, lighting effects or any other known flaws in photography.
Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.

The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins
Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov
If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams

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Tempe 12ft Chicken
Member (Idle past 366 days)
Posts: 438
From: Tempe, Az.
Joined: 10-25-2012


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Message 1003 of 1310 (769020)
09-15-2015 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 999 by ScottRP
09-15-2015 3:29 PM


You seemed to miss the questions
ScottRP writes:
Considering that you do not know what it is. Why don't you ask someone who does?
I know what it is...it is a spirit flying in a chariot(orb).
As you seemed to just gloss over the actual questions of evidence, let's ask you again:
Tempe 12ft Chicken writes:
What evidence (outside of the pictures) do you have that this is not what is occurring for you? How can we verify that this is a spirit and not pareidolia caused by the human brain seeking recognition in patterns? Scriptures are not sufficient evidence since plenty of those also lack any sort of corroborating evidence. Explain how we could possibly test for this without receiving false positives due to dust, bugs, lighting effects or any other known flaws in photography.
What tests have been done on the photo taking to verify authenticity? Have you tested other possible answers for the phenomenon? Have you gone to the same location and had someone that provides a dust cloud to try and generate similar images? I don't care about what you claim to know, I want to know what evidence you can provide outside of a picture of a blurry light, something which is known to be caused by many different possible malfunctions/reflections? What was the humidity in the air when the picture was taken? Could moisture have created some reflection? Please provide your evidence for your claim.
Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.

The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins
Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov
If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams

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Tempe 12ft Chicken
Member (Idle past 366 days)
Posts: 438
From: Tempe, Az.
Joined: 10-25-2012


Message 1013 of 1310 (769033)
09-15-2015 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1007 by ScottRP
09-15-2015 4:39 PM


Re: You seemed to miss the questions
ScottRP writes:
What you are asking is ridiculous to us who have had spirits in our lives and know them. None of that is necessary for us because we know what the photographs are already.
For you, I have provided scripture in the opening post supporting my claims of chariots of God(orbs).
And, I have done the same with the Holy Spirit in message 941.
And I have stated that a book written by man is not good enough evidence to guarantee that these camera pictures (that were taken thousands of years later with equipment they could have had no idea about) are anything more than pareidolia, an idea they also did not understand as well as we do. Therefore, I am asking you to go beyond the scriptures and provide further evidence for the accuracy of what you shot with your camera. Otherwise, I can tell you that I know that these pictures are perfect examples of well known faults in camera technology, faults that have been decreasing as the camera technology has advanced. So, now we appear to be at an impasse as we both know something. Here is the difference, I can provide evidence of how light, dust, and bugs can affect cameras and create identical images to the ones you are claiming to know are spirits. You need to provide evidence that these spirits are not something which we already have evidence of; i.e. - light, dust, bugs, etc...
Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.

The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins
Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov
If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams

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Tempe 12ft Chicken
Member (Idle past 366 days)
Posts: 438
From: Tempe, Az.
Joined: 10-25-2012


Message 1027 of 1310 (769089)
09-16-2015 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1026 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 2:25 PM


ScottRP writes:
For reals! That is the thing you are going to claim is an alien? That is nothing more than a blurry image of a tree root buried in snow. In fact, the colors of the "alien" match identically to the colors of the branches that are on the left side of the picture, especially the one that is located about one third down from the top. That is a great example of pareidolia in effect though, so thanks for showing us again how great humans are at seeing people/aliens/spirits in random objects.

The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins
Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov
If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams

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