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almeyda
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Message 5 of 76 (110796)
05-26-2004 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
05-26-2004 10:06 PM


Re: Well Hitler and the Nazis were very much Christian movements.
If indeed they did then they were not being consistent with their christian belief. And with their christian standard of morality.

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almeyda
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Message 11 of 76 (110831)
05-27-2004 5:52 AM


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So would you say that it is not the Christian Doctrine, but rather that people can abuse Christianity and pervert it for their own reasons?
Yes.
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This is an untrue statement since an individuals beliefs are his/her own.Therefore they were being consistent with their christian beliefs. As for a Christian standard of morality would you care to back this up with a rundown of what the "standard of morality" is? Could you also at the same time clarify how you arrive at just what is meant by Christian which is fully acceptable by others who call themselves Christian? It is my impression that no standard is in existence which "defines" a Christian.Without a definition of Christian how can a standard of morality exist that is strictly Christian?
I pointed out in post #1 that I wish to avoid sloppy thinking and I believe this qualifies.
Well the Bible teaches one blood, one race. Where did Hitler get this christian idea that Germans were the superior race (or whatever his philosophy was) and also the idea that Jews were inferior and needed to be eliminated?. Also Jesus teachings on how to be christian do not give any impression to justify what Hitler did (Galatians 5:16-25). Hitlers thoughts seem to be very more consistent with an evolutionary world were man by himself can determine truth. In Hitlers eyes and many other people may have thought what they were doing was right.

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almeyda
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Message 14 of 76 (110863)
05-27-2004 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Wounded King
05-27-2004 7:48 AM


I dont know if Hitler was encouraged by historical or religious events. But i was arguing the point that he was encouraged by christianity as other posts pointed to. And the reason i give the connection to evolution is because evolution gives the world no absolutes whereas the Bible says do not murder among other warnings against hate, violence etc. Therefore if Hitler thought in his mind that what he was doing was right, then he was being consistent with "no absolute of standards". No one can claim other wise. But of course the majority are against him because he caused human suffering etc.
As for your one race, one blood question. Well its obvious the Bible teaches we descended from 2 ancestors. Therefore we are all related back to them. And any difference in races is just due to skin pigment, different characteristics etc. Therefore we are all equal. And no man is superior than any other man because one is white and another is black. (Acts 17:26).

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almeyda
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Message 29 of 76 (111340)
05-29-2004 1:36 AM
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05-27-2004 2:48 PM


Could you point me to a passage/chapter of this please?.

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