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Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

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ringo
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09-11-2014 1:13 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
09-10-2014 4:10 PM

Greatest I am writes:
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I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.
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Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?
Apparently God didn't agree with our opinion. Either He thought that Adam was not the guiltiest or that ruling over Eve was no favour.
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09-14-2014 2:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 15 by Greatest I am
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Greatesy I am writes:
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I think Adam more culpable. Do you agree or not?
No. Adam and Eve did the same thing. Ignorance is no excuse. Being deceived is no excuse.
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09-23-2014 11:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Greatest I am
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Not having the power to not be deceived by a supernatural entity is a perfect excuse that any judge would accept.
Neither Adam nor Eve had the power to not be deceived. They were either equally innocent or equally guilty.
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09-24-2014 11:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Greatest I am
09-23-2014 4:32 PM

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I agree but God says nothing in this myth of Adam being deceived. He does say he disobeyed.
Make up your mind. Are you going to accept the myth as written or not? You accept what it says about who was deceived. Why not accept what it says about God's judgement?
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Both being able to be deceived says nothing to the premise that Eve could not possibly resist and should thus be innocent of any wrongdoing.
If both were capable of being deceived then both were capable of disobeying. Both disobeyed. The reason for their disobedience - the deception or lack thereof - is irrelevant.
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