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randman 
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Message 89 of 152 (277592)
01-09-2006 3:33 PM


population genetics
Whereas population genetics depends on analysis of evolutionary forces, YECism, ID, OECism, etc,...all also incorporate evolutionary forces into their theories and models. Adaptation and speciation are components or accepted by creationism and ID as well. So imo, the argument that ToE is a prerequisite for population genetics is fallacious argument which essentially restates the same logical error in claiming micro-evolution equals ToE.
Micro-evolution is not the same as ToE, regardless of how much evos want to say it is. They are 2 distinct concepts, related for sure, but not the same.
wiki reference below (always to be taken with a grain of salt)
Population genetics is the study of the distribution of and change in allele frequencies under the influence of the four evolutionary forces: natural selection, genetic drift, mutation, and migration. It also takes account of population subdivision and population structure in space. As such, it attempts to explain such phenomena as adaptation and speciation.
Population genetics - Wikipedia

  
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Message 90 of 152 (277593)
01-09-2006 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Faith
01-09-2006 3:27 PM


Re: respect
in fact will continue when the ToE is finally discovered to be false.
Imo, this presents a valid way to test Faith's claim, at least as a thought experiment. If we were to say ToE is wrong, would population genetics continue and be valid?
If population genetics could conceivable continue if ToE is wrong and something like creationism or ID be correct, then it is wrong to claim population genetics cannot work unless ToE is true.

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Message 144 of 152 (278349)
01-12-2006 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by jar
01-11-2006 11:02 PM


Re: mutations and environmental changes
Saying it doesn't make it so. Moreover, it's uncalled for in context, and frankly, just plain weird here.

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