evolution discussion with faith

Hi Faith,I'd like to recommend a thread I started some time back that includes some examples: Creationists benefit directly from the Theory of Evolution.In my opening post I describe how evolution permitted scientists to have a strong grasp on how colon cancer works by examining such things as fruit fly eggs and yeast. Others added good examples (probably better than mine).(Also, be careful (others should too) - it seems people are using "ToE" to mean different things. I think others are using it in a basic sense of selection acting on genetic variation, while you seem to be using it more in the sense of the an explanation of the history of all life on the planet. That's what appears to be going on to me, at least...)

Faith, Here's also a nice post Yaro made that stuck in my head - it contains a bunch of examples.Hopefully it contains the sort of thing you are looking for... let me know if you have questions on anything.(edit: fixed link so that it works regardless of number of messages per page - AdminNWR)This message has been edited by AdminNWR, 01-08-2006 07:15 PM

If you'd follow the link you'd find one example in my own words. I have no intention of rewriting it when you can just click on the link. You must be awfully busy if you can't click a link to read a post... Another reason I was simply posting some links to information for you rather than filling up this thread. I will now leave the thread.Hopefully you will put a bit more effort into learning about what you claim to want to learn - next time I might not bother trying to be helpful.

hi schraf: YES! (and I appreciate what you are trying to do with this thread...)One aspect of scientific careers that might help Faith understand the point you are trying to make:Many scientists make rather drastic jumps in the subject matter they are studying; in some fields, scientists are expected to change their field of study as they move from undergrad to graduate to postdoctoral positions. To stay safely within one area of expertise throughout a career is essentially seen as a sign of weakness.Also, a good scientist follows the research where it leads, even if into unknown territory for the scientist. I find this especially true among scientists who work with animal models - some are interested in a specific phenotype and only study that phenotype, even if other novel phenotypes arise as a result of their experiments. However, the better organismal biologists examine all of the interesting/informative phenotypes, not just the ones they expect - even if that means someone trained as a cancer biologist is suddenly doing behavioral research.A good scientist can study just about anything, because the basic underpinnings of science are universal.

Sheesh. Did you even follow the link to my post? It is to a straightforward narrative on how the ToE allowed a better understanding of cancer based on such things as fruit fly egg development. It's one example, not "a long list of homework." If it seems overwhelming to you, ask questions, don't dismiss it.Since further discussions of such examples are off-topic here, I suggest you post in the linked thread if you have questions.