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1.61803
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Message 21 of 376 (707116)
09-23-2013 3:55 PM


Are we decended from Adam and Eve?
Scientific: No
Biblical: Yes

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

  
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Message 44 of 376 (709185)
10-22-2013 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by jaywill
10-22-2013 9:16 AM


Re: Not sure what's going on ...
jaywill writes:
"If I am just another animal, well, all things are OK."
quote:
"You know Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."
  —Ripley
Ellen Ripley Officer of the Nostromo
*edit to add: I should clarify that we do not need God or religion to condemn or glorify our morality or humanity for that matter.
We do the things we do because we are products of evolution not because we are products of a creation myth imo.
Edited by 1.61803, : No reason given.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 51 of 376 (709263)
10-23-2013 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by jaywill
10-22-2013 6:18 PM


Re: Not sure what's going on ...
Hello jaywill,
Thanks for the response.
jaywill writes:
If there is a goodness out there, objectively, as a transcendent standard, how was it in existence before evolution caused life to arrive there at it ?
If the good was a reality before evolution groped its way to cause a species to realize it, what IS that goodness ? (bolding is mine0
If...the middle word of life.
I appreciate your point of view, however there may be a bit of anthromorphic thinking going on.
For instance if a lion male kills the brood of another male, most would think that heinous and cruel.
That is why I quoted Ripley in referencing how human behavior of deceit and treachery is seen as "bad". Because we humans have developed this distinction. Whereas other creatures have not.
I do think the domestic dog can feel pangs of guilt though, and that may simply be our anthromorphic thinking too. But I can almost swear my dog knows that digging under the fence is a no no.
The point is it is common for humans to assign our morality to our brethren animals. Our human sense of morality is both attracted and repelled by the seeming abject apathy nature appears to display in this regard. It is in my opinion, our attempt to allay our fears of a nihilistic existence.
Edited by 1.61803, : spelling

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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