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Author Topic:   A Better Theory: In Defense of Food by Michael Pollan
Straggler
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Message 23 of 78 (698476)
05-07-2013 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Percy
05-07-2013 11:20 AM


Re: Folksy Talk Dressed in Common Sense
Taq writes:
Are the whole foods in the bar doing as much harm as the additives? Again, the constant assumption is that artificial is bad, natural is good. But is this true?
Percy writes:
Oh, I see, you're questioning the proposition that whole foods are healthier than processed foods, and that traditional diets are healthier than the western style diet.
Percy writes:
One thing that has been observed over and over again is that when people abandon a traditional diet for a western style diet that they soon begin experiencing the diseases of western civilization, namely heart disease and diabetes.
I think Taq was questioning the assumption that natural must invariably be better and processed always bad. I don't think anyone is defending what you have called the'Western diet' over traditional diets. Processed food in the Western diet has been processed to maximise consumption in order to maximise profit. It panders to our evolutionary inbuilt desire for sweet, salty and fatty foods with the over-arching aim of keeping production costs down and consumption high in order to maximise profit.
If we were to produce processed food with the aim of maximising nutritional value and needs rather than desires and profit it might lead to a different result in terms of processed food being unhealthy.
I'm not suggesting this is remotely likely. I'm just defending the idea that we can/should question the processed = bad position.

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Straggler
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Message 31 of 78 (698489)
05-07-2013 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Percy
05-07-2013 11:59 AM


Re: Folksy Talk Dressed in Common Sense
Percy writes:
The interesting contradiction of processed foods is that they're being increasingly promoted as healthy simply because certain vitamins and minerals have been added.
People's nominal desire to eat more healthily has been turned into a marketing strategy for innately unhealthy foods. It's mad really....
Percy writes:
Ten years from now some new substance will have health primacy, at least in the minds of nutrition researchers and food marketeers.
I suspect that part of the problem is that in many cases these are the same people. I don't want to completely derail your thread (so feel free to ignore) but I was trying to think of a situation where those processing food were attempting to do so with nutritional requirements rather than sales as the primary aim. The only situation I could think of was space food for astronaughts.
If we are going to send manned space missions to places like Mars we are probably going to have to come up with ways of meeting genuine nutritional needs in some sort of processed food form. I have no idea what the current status of astronaught food is in terms of how it compares to fresh 'natural' food. But this must be an area of research for bodies like NASA....

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