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Message 13 of 182 (697947)
05-02-2013 12:46 AM
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Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
He-he-he, I've across a farmer with beautiful mammal-like reptiles fossils in his house, but still strongly believe in a 6000 year old earth and that evolution was directly sent to us by the devil, in the guise of Darwin. Figure that.
Why is this a problem? Surely you know the fossils are the remains of creatures killed in the worldwide Flood?

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Message 15 of 182 (697951)
05-02-2013 1:48 AM
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Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
Faith, have you ever in your life even been to the Karoo? Ever done any geology on it?
Seen some pictures and diagrams. It's quite an impressive collection of fossils.
The "evidence" that there was never a worldwide Flood is really pretty silly.
Evidence FOR the Flood is everywhere -- in the mere existence of the strata, and in the prodigious numbers of fossils themselves among other things.
Let me guess that the increase in mammalian features is subject to interpretation.
Do you think that those thousands of geologists who actually have studied those rocks intensively and publishing their studies for all to see are all wrong, only you are right?
I do think they are all wrong about the time factor and their basic assumptions about the relation of the fossils to each other, yes, of course.
But ONLY I? Hardly, despite the assaults on the Bible there do remain millions who take it seriously. I'm in good company.
Which YEC has ever found, studied and published a fossil from the Karoo?
I'm not sure why YECs don't get more involved in that aspect of the science, perhaps partly because it's been taken over by the OE people, partly because YECs don't have a huge need to study fossils since we know they are the result of the Flood? Still, I know many enjoy collecting them, and we could learn from them about the forms of life that lived before the Flood, perhaps some things about the climate of the time and so on. Perhaps mostly it's because YEC science is still too new to have an organized approach beyond simply trying to answer the OE claims.
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Message 17 of 182 (697954)
05-02-2013 2:43 AM
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05-02-2013 2:15 AM


Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
There’s absolutely no evidence for a worldwide flood.
Again, the prodigious numbers of fossils is itself evidence for the Flood and the Karoo therefore has lots of evidence for it.
So, you think that all those people who have intensively studied every little member of the Karoo Sequence are quite silly? Every single one of them?
Quite silly? No, I'm sure they know a lot about it, but they are of course wrong about the time factor as I said.
Not even one piece of evidence for a global flood in the Karoo Supergroup.
Prodigious number of fossils there.
No signs of a global flood.
Prodigious numbers of fossils.
It seems as if the specialists on the Karoo don’t agree with you. You know, those people who actually study the subject. Those who don’t just look at fossils in pictures.
They are mere men, Pressie, not gods. They are capable of being misled by the prevailing paradigm to wrong conclusions, they are capable if misinterpreting the evidence.
Also do hope that you realize that the overwhelming majority of scientists who do take the Bible seriously accept that the earth is very, very old , that no global flood occurred and life as we know it today came about via the theory of evolution.
I'm sorry, they do not "take the Bible seriously" if they accept the Old Earth belief and deny the Flood, evidence for which is obvious to me just about anywhere I look on this planet, and believe in evolution -- all of this contradicts the Bible. They are in fact following fallible human science and not the word of God.
Nope. It’s because YEC’s don’t do science at all. They read holy books.
Oh there ARE YEC scientists, Pressie, geologists too, I've quoted a few of them here even, and YECs who read about these things have a pretty good grasp of the scientific issues involved too. The vast majority of believers in evolution don't do science either you know, but you wouldn't fault them for their mere book learning because they agree with you, take whatever the establishment tells them as gospel truth, you only fault YECs because we don't agree with you.
As for "reading holy books," no, we trust in THE word of the one true God who has revealed to us things science could never find out on its own, and since establishment science denies God they can never arrive at the truth about these things, they are merely deluding themselves.
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Message 19 of 182 (697957)
05-02-2013 3:40 AM
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05-02-2013 3:26 AM


Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
Please explain exactly how 'prodigious numbers of fossils' in the Karoo are evidence for a global flood?
Dead things. You know, creatures killed suddenly en masse, buried suddenly, in the bazillions all over the world, are really good evidence for the Flood, notwithstanding your preferred alternative klutzy explanations for them.
Do take in consideration that there is no evidence for a 'flood layer' in the Karoo at all, but that those fossils occur in different members and formations in the Supergroup.
The very idea of a "flood layer" is absolute nonsense. I'm sorry some creationists think in such terms, it's extreme foolishness. A worldwide Flood would not have left a mere "layer," it would have demolished everything, stirred up everything, scoured off continents and redeposited separated layers of sediments on them, and where it didn't form strata it would have just piled things on top of each other. The general appearance of the earth as it is right now can be explained in terms of what happened during the Flood period. The separated strata are major evidence, and so is the gargantuan number of fossils. Sudden death by the bazillions, rapid burial. Great evidence.
Also explain why only reptilian fossils occur in lower members, while, as one goes up in the stratigraphy, fossils become more mammal-like till we get mammals (together with reptiles) higher up in the stratigraphy. How does a global flood explain that?
I don't know. There's enough evidence for the Flood without having to explain that part of it. I'm sure there are YECs who CAN explain that of course, although I can't at the moment.
You mean a few (not more than 20 worldwide) who trained as geologists, but stopped being scientists the moment they stopped doing science? Then joined religious organisations and write tracts for them? That lot?
No I mean practicing YEC geologists. I've posted on at least a couple of them. Steve Austin is one, can't remember the name of the Brit who is currently studying the Coconino layer of the Grand Canyon.
Yet, people like you try to tell all those thousands of specialists, who have actually done the hard yards, that they all are wrong. That sounds quite silly to me.
What's "silly" is not believing in the one true living God and His word.
And, Faith, whether you like it or not, the overwhelming majority of specialists who take the Bible seriously and are Christians accept an old earth, deny a global flood and accept the theory of evolution.
Sorry, that's false. That's not taking the Bible seriously at all. Sorry.
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Message 22 of 182 (697963)
05-02-2013 6:05 AM
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Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
That formation as I recall the drawings of it is a huge bed of dead things. Finding different causes for their deaths is just an exercise in hairsplitting. All those elements you mention would have been involved in the Flood period anyway, during or in its aftermath, glaciers, volcanoes etc.
And there is no reason to expect that all forms of life would have to be buried in the same location, the Karoo has its own particular collection.
"A flood" that produces "a" flood layer is not THE Flood that covered the entire earth to enough depth for months to wash away whatever could be washed away. That's just a typical straw man. Sorry, THE Flood did not behave as any flood we've ever seen. Everything you say about what "floods" do is just a big fat straw man. THINK for a change about what a WORLDWIDE Flood of the Biblical description would do, certainly nothing like your ordinary floods.
The God who made this planet certainly DOES have EVERYTHING to do with science, which unfortunately you'll probably find out one day the hard way.
Christians believe in Bible inerrancy, cover to cover. That includes me and millions of others back two millennia. Those who deny any part of it cannot be called Bible believers or be said to "take the Bible seriously." Taking PART of the Bible "seriously" -- if that's even possible -- is not taking the Bible seriously.

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Message 27 of 182 (698020)
05-02-2013 2:56 PM
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05-02-2013 7:22 AM


Karoo
You must have seen a creationist drawing. There's lots and lots of different formations (actually members) with 'dead things' in the Karoo. Different dead things. In different formations.
OK. As I recall they are all or at least a majority of them are aquatic reptilian type creatures. Not that it matters.
Some didn't die in floods. No hair-splitting involved. Just facts.
Excuse me, but how can you tell from a FOSSIL, which is the preserved remains of the HARD parts of the creature, how it died? You have no organs to help you determine that. You must be going on the environment in which it was found, yes? In which case there is nothing inconsistent with the Flood explanation, as it is generally understood to have been attended by volcanic action and followed by glaciation for instance. Also your horseshoe bends are understood to have formed as the water rapidly receded in certain areas. The likelihood that the fossils found in such Flood-related environments were killed by anything but the Flood itself is not great, but even if on the unlikely possibility they were killed by the volcano or the glacier or the rapid running water it's all still part of the Flood scenario.
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All those elements you mention would have been involved in the Flood period anyway,...
Nope. A flood involves water. Hence the name.
THE Flood involved a lot more than the rising of the water, and again to compare it to any other flood is ludicrous.
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... during or in its aftermath, glaciers, volcanoes etc.
And deserts. And rivers. and deltas. So, you're not describing a flood at all.
I'm describing what is generally understood to have been part of the scenario of THE Flood, much of it caused as the water receded. Rivers and deltas most certainly would have been part of the aftermath, as were huge lakes.
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... And there is no reason to expect that all forms of life would have to be buried in the same location,....
They're not buried in the same location. Hope you do realise that the Karoo Supergroup covers a huge area? Not one location at all. Apart from that, lots and lots of different formations.
Lots and lots of beds of fossils, i.e. dead things killed in one catastrophic event and dumped and buried rapidly in that particular area though in separate beds. There is nothing inconsistent with the Flood explanation in anything you've said.
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... the Karoo has its own particular collection.
The Karoo Sequence has no fossils of elephants, lions, springboks, humans, leopards, aardvarks, etc. The worst is: no Rhinos! Hope you do realise that the Karoo Sequence is found in Southern Africa....the flood must have missed them.
You aren't making much sense here. The lack of land animal fossils in a particular location means NOTHING in relation to the Flood explanation. They would have been buried in higher deposits which could have washed away as the water receded as they clearly did over the Grand Canyon for one instance, or they got buried at some other location. Why would there be a problem for the Flood explanation with the Karoo sequence being found in southern Africa? We do believe that before the Flood there were not separated continents as there are now.
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... "A flood" that produces "a" flood layer is not THE Flood that covered the entire earth to enough depth for months to wash away whatever could be washed away.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but gravity is gravity, doesn't matter where you go in the world. The coarse grained, heavy things sink first...everywhere on earth.
What is your point?
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That's just a typical straw man.
You think that gravity is a straw man? Sorry, it isn't. The coarse, heavy material sink to the bottom first. No straw-man involved.
Now you've invented ANOTHER straw man. The first straw man is the comparison to itty bitty floods in your typical refusal or inability to imagine the scale of the Noachian Flood.
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Sorry, THE Flood did not behave as any flood we've ever seen.
And also did not abide by gravity, I guess....magic.
The only gravity problem I'm seeing here is that your head is about to float away from being filled with hot air.
Faith writes:
Everything you say about what "floods" do is just a big fat straw man.
Nope. Your're welcome do do the experiments yourself. Yor description involves magic.
And yours involves mere stubborn refusal to imagine the obvious.
Faith writes:
THINK for a change about what a WORLDWIDE Flood of the Biblical description would do, certainly nothing like your ordinary floods.
I have. We would find a 'flood layer', completely messed up, and as the energy goes down, the course material will settle at the bottom and it will grained into fine-grained material at the top. A Flood certainly won't deposit a 'layer' of course grained material above a 'layer' of fine-grained material.
Even rivers deposit sediments in layers. It's a common phenomenon. In the Flood there would have been OCEAN ACTION too, you know, WAVES and CURRENTS -- naturally layered water, and naturally layer-producing phenomena. Sending successive deposits of separated sediments across entire continents, such as the Coconino sandstone which covers a huge swath of North America.
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The God who made this planet certainly DOES have EVERYTHING to do with science, ...
I thought you are referring to science?
I am.
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....which unfortunately you'll probably find out one day the hard way.
Ah, the threat. Sorry, I don't believe in spooks who will turn me into a toad after death. Your threats are the same as a hippy threatening to punch me in my aura. Doesn't mean much to me. I just laugh.
Indeed.
Faith writes:
....Christians believe in Bible inerrancy, cover to cover.
It seems as if those Christian specialists don't believe the same way as you.
That's because they've allowed mere fallible human imagination to replace the revelation of the God who made them.
Faith writes:
That includes me and millions of others back two millennia. Those who deny any part of it cannot be called Bible believers or be said to "take the Bible seriously." Taking PART of the Bible "seriously" -- if that's even possible -- is not taking the Bible seriously.
And millions and millions of Christians disagree with you.
Yes, that's the current revisionist apostate "Christianity" but what I said is true, Bible believers have always been Christianity, not half-Bible believers.
Especially those specialists on the subject of geology.
Who have chosen their own fallible human ponderings over the revelation of the God who made them.
Any luck on those creationist specialists who have studied those Karoo fossils yet? Or the geology, for that matter?
No but I'd like to find some and they may be out there.
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Message 28 of 182 (698021)
05-02-2013 3:00 PM
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Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
Again, the prodigious numbers of fossils is itself evidence for the Flood and the Karoo therefore has lots of evidence for it.
We should find just the opposite in a flood. We should find very few fossils in such a massive geologic formation that was made in a single year. You need to get a handle on what the biomass of an ecosystem really is. To produce as many fossils as is found in the Karoo formation it would require an ecosystem where animals are literally stacked on top of one another.
The usual strange failure of geological imagination. The piling of animals on top of one another is EXACTLY what the Flood would have done that NO OTHER PHENOMENON could have done. We aren't talking "ecosystems" here, we're talking the MOVING AND DEPOSITING of huge quantities of sediments and dead creatures from one place to another by ocean waves and currents.
I think this is just another example of creationists not thinking things through.
In fact it is the usual example of anti-creationists not thinking things through.

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Message 29 of 182 (698024)
05-02-2013 3:15 PM
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Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
You are wrong from the start. Fossils have nothing to do with your great flood. Biblical scholars place the flood about 4,350 years ago. The fossils you are talking about are generally millions to hundreds of millions of years old.
Nope, 4350 years is about right for their true age once you clear away all the cobwebs of the dating methods of false science.
The flood involved people--modern humans--with a spoken and written language. That fits with the 4,350 year date, but not with fossil beds millions of years ago.
Quite true, and that's because the Flood killed probably billions of human beings along with all the other living things. The word "modern" is redundant, human beings are human beings.
Further, in all of those ancient fossil beds there are no remains of humans. That's because humans weren't around at the time.
No, it's because they would have been buried in the uppermost deposits which were all washed away in the receding Flood waters.
And no, you can't just hand-wave the dating issue away.
Sure I can, and with a lot more justificatiuon than you have for hand-waving away the revelation of God.
Are you really silly enough to think that scientists can mistake Permian Period fossils for modern ones from just 4,350 years ago?
Of course they can, because there is nothing in the fossils themselves to tell them how old they are, they are relying on secondary clues they are misinterpreting.
And that all dating methods are off by a factor of about 5,500x?
Yes.
You have no evidence for this, you just cling to your belief system and assume (hope) that everything that contradicts it is wrong.
I KNOW everything that contradicts it is wrong, because I KNOW it's based on the revelation of the God who made everything scientists study. But as for evidence, there is a TON of evidence for the Flood for anyone willing to take off their "science" blinders and LOOK.

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Message 31 of 182 (698030)
05-02-2013 3:33 PM
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Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
It doesn't have to have anything to do with dating methods. Some fossils are made when all the organic material from the organism is replaced with minerals. That just could not have happen during The Flood.
Uh, the creatures were BURIED during the Flood, but the fossilization processes occurred over time afterward. It shouldn't take more than a couple hundred years max.
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Message 34 of 182 (698034)
05-02-2013 3:44 PM
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Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
You mean Oetzi of course. Sorry, the dating is wrong on Oetzi. He might have been frozen as the mammoths were in the Flood period, or he might have died since then, but certainly not before the Flood.

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Message 35 of 182 (698035)
05-02-2013 3:46 PM
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Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
What's "making stuff up" is the ridiculous idea that it would take thousands of years to make a fossil. You don't know that, and there is evidence that it can happen in very short periods, for instance in caves. I'd have to dig it up but it involves the replacement of organic matter with mineral matter in a matter of years, not even hundreds let alone thousands.

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Message 38 of 182 (698038)
05-02-2013 3:56 PM
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Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
Thank you for the recital of the JAR Creed.

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Message 39 of 182 (698040)
05-02-2013 4:05 PM
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Fossilization does NOT take a lot of time
What's "making stuff up" is the ridiculous idea that it would take thousands of years to make a fossil.
Show me a fossil that is less than thousands of years old.
Sigh. I'll try to find that example. But you do understand that a few "thousands" is sufficient to fossilize the remains from the Flood, right?
You don't know that, and there is evidence that it can happen in very short periods, for instance in caves. I'd have to dig it up...
Yeah, sure. Of course you will. I'll just sit here and hold my breath until you do
Yes, please do that.
Look, there countless evidence that proves without a doubt that humans have never seen a global flood. Its impossible. Literally never happened.
I've never seen such evidence, it doesn't exist, it's a figment of the modern imagination, while the evidence FOR such a Flood is EVERYWHERE.
There's no contention, its not debatable, don't even try to act like it is.
My, we seem to have quite a few sages or seers around here, who are absolutely certain about things they couldn't possibly be certain about. I think that's called, oh yes, ....bigotry.
...the replacement of organic matter with mineral matter in a matter of years, not even hundreds let alone thousands.
So where are the fossilized native americans? I live near the Cahokia Mounds. There were hundred of thousands of native americans living here about 1000 years ago. Not one single fossil of them has ever been found.
Um, dear CS, think for half a minute. Fossilization does take special conditions, the very conditions that would have been provided in a worldwide Flood, the rapid burial in wet sediments under great pressure for instance. On the other hand normal burial creates the conditions for decay and eventual dissolution of body parts, including bones.
You know why? Because its impossible.
Fossilization simply takes longer than that.
Like I said, the fact that you're willing to lie about it proves to me that even you don't believe your own bullshit. You're just acting like you do to save face. But you know its crap, you really do.
Yup, a seer, a sage, a psychic yet.
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ABE: Here's some evidence for you:
It's about CONDITIONS, not time.
This one gives some examples of "petrification," meaning the substitution of mineral matter for organic matter, that were observed to occur in short periods of time.
And here's another page on the subject: see boot example
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Message 42 of 182 (698045)
05-02-2013 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by jar
05-02-2013 4:31 PM


Re: You're wrong on the fossil bit
That's SO funny, jar, since the post of yours I was answering is a perfect example of flat out assertion without a shred of evidence.
And your original post on Oetzi, yes I remember it well, had a long list of similar assertions about the find, ALSO without a shred of actual evidence -- with the exception of one detail as I recall, the grass in the shoes -- which I pointed out on that thread.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 43 of 182 (698046)
05-02-2013 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Taq
05-02-2013 4:54 PM


Re: Info on fossil collecting on gov't land
I believe your post is misleading. As I understand it, the fossils in the Karoo are mostly if not exclusively of aquatic creatures, not land creatures, so that the land estimates given by Morton are irrelevant.

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