Why evolution and Christianity cannot logically mesh

quick correction--all life is is a collection of chemical compounds. All the emergent properties that we can measure are the result of these chemical compounds and their interactions. Pain deals with nerves--a quite complex interaction of chemical signals. SO no, animals (including ourselves) are still nothing more than a bag of chemical compounds.(unless, of course, if such a thing as the soul exists, but science can't prove or disprove that, for the very nature of it's being)(but then we're still bags, but one more ingredient added)

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can I ask why you've started almost the exact same thread? You've already one for your crusade against the compatibility of christianty and evolution, why do you need this one? especially as that other one still has at least 150 posts to go. I don't think you should've opened this one faith.

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you want to know where your objective sin is? (aside from up your ass, that is) In God--it is only God who judges us when we die, only he who has the authority to decide what we did or didn't do was right or wrong, sinful or good. Sin is a religious concept, it's rules not to be confused with our civic rules--the penal, tax, civil, et al codes. Civil rules, while quite subjective in nature, are used to let society run. Sin rules are not for society, but for getting into that golden place known as heaven (or hell, pending decision).SO there you have it--our subjective morality in the form of civil laws to let society function, and an objective set, only usable by God, to let heaven function.oh, one last thing--how can God's judgement be objective? Well, he is all-knowing, right?[rant]
First attacking jar, then attacking a false evolution paradigm (evolutionism, which isn't real--I posted something about that in the other thred), and now to an attack on our philosophies. Is there nothing that you won't attack, you dog?
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I'm not sure how animal pain is off topic in that other thread, but . . .I see where you're going with this--or rather, why you did open this topic.something tells me I won't be posting in this thread anymore, but I guess it depends . . . yeah . . .

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apparently I will be posting in this thread.as to the no other animals having self-awareness, I'd recommend a look at a few of the higher level mammals--chimps and dolphins come to mind.as to pain--it isn't really suffering. All pain is is a reaction to specific stimuli. When it's hot, you burn, and it's painful. But al that pain is, is a way of letting you know, "hey, get out of the frickin' sun you moron!", or "hey, if you don't move you're gonna die!".I agree with your pain analysis. I disagree with your consciousness analysis--especially the part of God is what makes us human, and different from the other animals. Am I not human (I don't believe in God)?

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