Immorality of Homosexuality

Taxmanian Devil responds to berberry:

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Now for bonus points, try answering these two questions:

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I don't know what your underlying message is, but I think I can add something to this.

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There is no denying that the media is bias for news that will get more people to read, watch, or hear. The vast overwhelming majority of pedophiles are straight men, which is exactly the reason why the media doesn't cover every single case. A gay pedophile is a lot rarer, and so whenever one is brought to light the media is all over the scene. Hence, the myth that just won't go away that all gay men are pedophiles.

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But you're missing the point. Answer the question: When was the last time you heard of a gay man molesting a child? It's hard to find. Why? Because it's so rare.Now, people often assume that if the pedophile and the child are the same sex, that necessarily means that the pedophile is gay, but that is not true. Pedophiles are attracted to children, in part, because of the androgynous characteristics of a child: A boy does not have the secondary sexual characteristics that help to strongly identify him as male.It was this confusion of pedophilia with homosexuality that resulted in the Catholic church going into palpitations regarding gay clergy after their sex scandal. Never mind that the perpetrators were straight: Because the priests and the victims were male, that must mean the priests were gay.

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Do catholic priests count?

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Yes, they do. But on top of that, notice what society has done: We focus on the fact that the two were of the same sex than any other aspect. Given so many Christian pedophiles, why hasn't society concluded that Christianity leads to pedophilia?

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

I'm wondering why it is that we have accepted the need to defend the distinction between same-sex sexual activity and interspecies sexual activity. It would seem clear that the two are not related since changing the sex of the participants in a sexual act does not change the species. Thus, the justifications for sexual activity between species has no connection to the justifications for sexual activity among the sexes.Thus, I'm putting the burden of proof back where it belongs:nemesis_juggernaut needs to explain why acceptance of heterosexuality doesn't immediately and necessarily require acceptance of bestiality.And without invoking arbitrary justifications such as the claim that god said so. After all, I can speak for god just as easily as nemesis_juggernaut can.

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

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As an absolutist, I say, yes. But you, as a relativist, must say only insofar as it subjectively serves some sort of pragmatic purpose-- but in the final analysis, no, there is no actual right or wrong.

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Incorrect. We do this all the time.The rules of Monopoly are completely man-made and arbitrary. In fact, they even vary from house to house and game to game. A common variant is that all money collected from Chance and Community Chest cards is placed under Free Parking. Anybody who lands on Free Parking gets whatever money is there.This rule has become so popular that it is now included in the box set as a variant.So even though these rules are completely arbitrary, subjective, and relative, they still exist. Break them and you will be punished.The idea that subjective, relative morality doesn't include a sense of right and wrong is trivially shown to be false.Everybody is a moral relativist. Everyone.

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Is it morally wrong for me to think that homosexuality is morally wrong? If yes, why? If not, why?

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Yes, because homosexuality is equivalent to heterosexuality and you do not find heterosexuality to be wrong. There is nothing that homosexuals do that heterosexuals don't.Therefore, it is up to you to justify why you think that equivalent things are to be treated differently.

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.