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Author Topic:   do Christians want their values enforced on everyone by law?
crashfrog
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Message 13 of 68 (361559)
11-04-2006 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Buzsaw
11-04-2006 4:03 PM


Re: Christians Impose No Laws
Get out, root for and vote for folks who impose laws you want imposed and who refrain from imposing others.
The problem is that we have this thing called "The Constitution" and it, not the decisions of our elected officials, is the highest law of the land.
That makes it a little more tricky than mob rule, and it also gives minorities (in the numeric, population sense) more power than they would otherwise. It prevents 51% of the population from steamrolling the other 49%. It prevents a majority from enslaving a minority.
It's actually a pretty good idea, but I can see how Christianists would oppose it, or anything else that stands in the way of the unchecked power they'd love to wield over the rest of us. No surprise then that Buz would pretend like it doesn't even exist.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1497 days)
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Message 56 of 68 (361858)
11-05-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Buzsaw
11-04-2006 4:15 PM


Re: Christians Impose No Laws
Why then did the authors/framers of the constitution have far more Christianity in government than is allowed by the more secularist electorate today.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Congressional chaplains and the like are of no concern to me or any other secularist. We still say "under God" in the pledge of allegience so your paranoid delusions of being held back by "secularists" simply don't hold up to reality.
The simple truth of the matter is that you're flat-out wrong. There was considerably less "Christianity" in government at the time of the founders than now; the founders would never have even considered the idea that the US Constitution would need to specify who couldn't marry who, or that people could or couldn't drink alcohol. Not only would they have recognized these things as violations of the First Amendment, they would have objected to them as violations of the philosophy of Federalism.

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