Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 59 (9164 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,927 Year: 4,184/9,624 Month: 1,055/974 Week: 14/368 Day: 14/11 Hour: 2/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   German judge rules child circumcision as child abuse.
saab93f
Member (Idle past 1425 days)
Posts: 265
From: Finland
Joined: 12-17-2009


(3)
Message 139 of 410 (666837)
06-30-2012 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Buzsaw
06-29-2012 9:13 PM


Re: Should be outlawed
quote:
Circumcision is in no way a form of mutilation. Removing a child's tonsils when not necessarily would be more mutilative to children. It's is a Biblical procedure for a good purpose. It is to tone down a child's desire for sex before maturity. It likely lessens criminal rape incidents, etc,
God commanded his messianic nation, the Jews to have this done on the eighth day. Providentially, the eighth day is the day when the proceedure is the less painful and heals the quickest. This is just another evidence of the credibility of the Biblical record.
We had our boys circumcised, though we are not Jewish, since we knew there had to be a good reason to have it done or God wouldn't have required it of the Jews.
History attests to the fact that Jews, for the most part are a special people, capable of great feats, though they are a very tiny nation. The have a way of acquiring wealth, protecting themselves and surviving for centuries of dispersion globally. Circumcision, likely is just one of many reasons they are superior to Gentiles in many ways.
The child gets his first corporal spanking at birth, rendering no harm, yet our laws forbid parents, teachers and principals to apply this effective way of correcting bad behavior. Government meddles in too many things which should apply to parents.
Baby rights pertaining to matters as trivial as circumcision is as non-sensical as pet rights.
I cannot remember when was the last time Id disagree so strongly with anybody as I do with you. You are incredibly unhumane - would you be willing to go as far as to accept the Jewish tradition of a Mohel sucking the blood off circumcision? Would you be willing to defend the twisted tradition even though it has killed several babies in the NY alone last couple of years?
Your argument that circumcision is good because it lessens the drive to have sex is vile and obnoxious. I have nothing good to say to you.
And then about corporal punishment - I am totally at loss with words. How on earth can you even try and justify raising a hand against an innocent little baby? How could you hurt a child?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 135 by Buzsaw, posted 06-29-2012 9:13 PM Buzsaw has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 140 by vimesey, posted 06-30-2012 5:21 AM saab93f has not replied

  
saab93f
Member (Idle past 1425 days)
Posts: 265
From: Finland
Joined: 12-17-2009


(1)
Message 173 of 410 (666903)
07-01-2012 6:30 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Jon
07-01-2012 12:53 AM


quote:
An absolute lie, of course; but you can all continue to believe what you like.
Of course these days circumcisions are performed on medical basis too but to claim that its origins had been anything but religious IS a absolute lie methinks.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 171 by Jon, posted 07-01-2012 12:53 AM Jon has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 177 by Jon, posted 07-01-2012 9:30 AM saab93f has not replied

  
saab93f
Member (Idle past 1425 days)
Posts: 265
From: Finland
Joined: 12-17-2009


(2)
Message 179 of 410 (666914)
07-01-2012 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Jon
07-01-2012 9:50 AM


Re: A history: the masturbation and fear of sexuality angle.
quote:
No it doesn't.
This thread has to do with why certain members of society over-obsess on matters of sexuality and feel a right to make everyone else's sexuality their priority.
This thread is about people who are, quite frankly, too damn hung upand creepily soon what happens with the penises of other people's children.
This thread's discussion has to do with whether a parent should have the right to make medical decisions for their child.
When it comes to tonsils, teeth, ears, and twin-branding, it's apparently okay to leave it up to the folks. But if it has to do with peepees, then suddenly everyone's interested in legislating what rights parents have over their children.
And, lastly, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with wanking.
Jon
8No it doesn't.
This thread has to do with why certain members of society over-obsess on matters of sexuality and feel a right to make everyone else's sexuality their priority.
This thread is about people who are, quite frankly, too damn hung upand creepily soon what happens with the penises of other people's children.
This thread's discussion has to do with whether a parent should have the right to make medical decisions for their child.
When it comes to tonsils, teeth, ears, and twin-branding, it's apparently okay to leave it up to the folks. But if it has to do with peepees, then suddenly everyone's interested in legislating what rights parents have over their children.
And, lastly, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with wanking.
Jon
Why is the sexual aspect then used at all as a rationale? And first of all, why does a healthy piece of a child need to be removed if not for cultural reasons? As said earlier - if a grown man wants to have his healthy foreskin removed, fine.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 178 by Jon, posted 07-01-2012 9:50 AM Jon has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 180 by Jon, posted 07-01-2012 10:36 AM saab93f has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024