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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined:
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coyote writes: 1. My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously? 2. I know this report is from WND, home of a lot of cranks, but one might ask why this isn't reported elsewhere? 3. Did the Ayatollah say this or not? 4. Does this represent state policy for Iran? 1. My guess would be because liberals and their media, are not fans of Israel. They "support" the Palestinians, and by proxy the Ayatollah. not really sure just a guess. I'll go ask the Jews down the hall and see what they say. 2. because they are really secretive about their "support" for the Palestinians, since they are very politically correct, and fans of name calling, for them to publicly share this news, may lead some one to categorize them with the black mark of anti-semitism, which they prefer to save for others. 3. I am not sure, he has probably said this more than once, especially since his nuclear engineers have "mysteriously" died in a car-bombs recently. 4. privately, no doubt. publicly of course not. (the current administration)
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Coyote writes:
And my question - why are conservatives trying to stampede us into another foolish and unnecessary war?My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously? Jesus was a liberal hippie
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Any response to the threatened genocide of all Jews, everywhere, which is the subject of this thread? Yes. I sincerely chide that person. Such things ought not be done. Now, please answer my question. Is there anyone at WND who isn't a crank?Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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I would have thought that calls for global genocide for an entire country and their ethnic group worldwide would have resulted in some condemnation, somewhere. Cranks gonna crank. Must we seek out anti-Israel material to condemn, now, to prove that we're not anti-Semites? Is that the new standard? Maybe you can let me know how many hours of the day I have to spend, unpaid, searching the internet for things to condemn. Like, a target would be nice. 2 hours? 6? Do I have to do it on the weekends, too? Also, I'm going to need your timesheets, Coyote, to make sure you're condemning enough cranks. I mean, fair's fair, right?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, in what you quoted I do not see any indication that the "Ayatollah" said anything. Your quote has one conservative nut job media outlet claiming that another nut job media outlet made a claim.
Second, is there any indication that even if it was a stated policy of Iran that they have the capability to do any such thing.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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1. My guess would be because liberals and their media, are not fans of Israel. They "support" the Palestinians, and by proxy the Ayatollah. not really sure just a guess. I'll go ask the Jews down the hall and see what they say. Or instead of guessing you could ask liberals what they think, but that would involve not being an idiot. If you want to know what Jews think about it, you could always look at the Israeli newspaper to which I supplied a link. Actually being in Israel rather than down the hall, their perspective on the matter might be even more revealing.
2. because they are really secretive about their "support" for the Palestinians, since they are very politically correct, and fans of name calling, for them to publicly share this news, may lead some one to categorize them with the black mark of anti-semitism, which they prefer to save for others. That's a very broad characterization of "elsewhere". Are you quite sure that that applies to every media organization in the world except WND?
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2506 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Artemis writes: I'll go ask the Jews down the hall and see what they say. If you've got an average sample, then you'll find it full of liberals.
Jewish vote in Presidential elections. The history is interesting. Here's the present: McCain (R) 22% Obama (D) 78% It appears that most American Jews are smart and well informed enough to know where in the political spectrum their real enemies might be found.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
If you want to know what Jews think about it, you could always look at the Israeli newspaper to which I supplied a link. Actually being in Israel rather than down the hall, their perspective on the matter might be even more revealing. The Jews down the hall are Israelis, as in they are citizens of Israel. I would rather hear their opinion than read about it in a newspaper, I think their opinion would be more revealing than a newspaper. follow the sources you think are best and I will follow mine.
That's a very broad characterization of "elsewhere". Are you quite sure that that applies to every media organization in the world except WND? no. Just giving my opinion to the OP.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
Obama is not a liberal, he just pretends to be one to get their vote.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2506 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Artemis E. writes: Obama is not a liberal, he just pretends to be one to get their vote. That would hardly reflect on the liberalism of the Jews.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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When Bush Jr. invaded Iraq based on lies, the largest lesson learned by ALL the nations in the world was to acquire nuclear weapons for deterrents against the US, . . . quickly.
Now, surely MORE nuclear weapons in the world is NOT a good thing, but, if I was Iran, it would be very smart to acquire nuclear weapons because america has invaded dozenS of countries ILLEGALLY these past centuries (while Iran has not invaded ANY country). Do you have any condemnation against the usa for this? Nah, didn't think so. The second biggest lesson about Bush Jr. lying to its citizens is, indeed, that americans SHOULD be extra vigilant AGAINST false-accusations in the future. Unfortunately, it seems this is a lesson that conservatives (Fox ""News" viewers) are simply unable/unwilling to learn. I believe scientists have already identified the defective "retard-gene" in conservatives that account for this. Regarding the following items, it would be nice to hear from you equal condemnation, but because of the afore-mentioned "retard-gene" I don't expect it: 1. Israel oppressing, torturing, murdering Palestinians, stealing their land, controlling their water, health care, economy. Condemnation?2. US and Israel threatening hostilities, sending aircraft carriers into nearby Iranian waters. How would you feel if Iran sent their navy into the Gulf of Mexico? Condemnation? 3. The US surrounding Iran's border with military bases is threatening, increases risk of hostilities. How would you feel if Iran had military bases in Mexico and Canada? Condemnation? 4. Israel assassinating Iranian scientists is a war crime. How would you feel if Iranians were assassinating us citizens inside of usa? Condemnation? 5. US violating Iran's airspace with drone flights. How would you feel if Iranian aircraft were flying over your house? Condemnation? 6. US led sanctions causing Iran's economy to plummet. How would you feel if you become unemployed due to Iranian "sanctions"? Condemnation? 7. Allowing/supporting India/Pakistan with Nuclear weapons but unilaterally deciding against Iran. How would you feel if Iran granted Cuba nuclear weapons while preventing the usa from nuclear weapons? Condemnation? You're a smart guy when it comes to archaeology Coyote, I enjoy your posts in the science sections of this forum. But very dumb, hateful, terrified, and full of hypocrisy about politics/foreign policy.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
I don't think they are liberal, just as I don't think you know what you are talking about. how many American Jew do you personally know that you speak to everyday?
I have lunch with them everyday Monday through Friday.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2506 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Coyote writes: My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously? I don't think you know much about your own media if you're hinting that it might have an anti-Israeli bias.
Article by Jewish man on Jewish presence in U.S. media. I think every American on the board should read that article carefully, and remember that bias in the media is not necessarily accompanied by conscious intent.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
dronestar writes: 1. Israel oppressing, torturing, murdering Palestinians, stealing their land, controlling their water, health care, economy. Condemnation?2. US and Israel threatening hostilities, sending aircraft carriers into nearby Iranian waters. How would you feel if Iran sent their navy into the Gulf of Mexico? Condemnation? 3. The US surrounding Iran's border with military bases is threatening, increases risk of hostilities. How would you feel if Iran had military bases in Mexico and Canada? Condemnation? 4. Israel assassinating Iranian scientists is a war crime. How would you feel if Iranians were assassinating us citizens inside of usa? Condemnation? 5. US violating Iran's airspace with drone flights. How would you feel if Iranian aircraft were flying over your house? Condemnation? 6. US led sanctions causing Iran's economy to plummet. How would you feel if you become unemployed due to Iranian "sanctions"? Condemnation? 7. Allowing/supporting India/Pakistan with Nuclear weapons but unilaterally deciding against Iran. How would you feel if Iran granted Cuba nuclear weapons while preventing the usa from nuclear weapons? Condemnation? 1. When did the Palestinians own/control the land? You want condemnation for gaining independence from the UK? Sorry but independence from the UK is a popular thing in the USA.2. I am not sure the US sent carriers into Iranian waters. International waters are, well international, I feel as if the Coast Guard and the US Navy can protect us if Iran wants to send ships into the Gulf of Mexico. You want condemnation for something that is legal, LOL. 3. Where are the USA bases in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, and Pakistan located? I highly doubt Canada or Mexico would want the Iranian bases there. 4. Do you have evidence that this is the case? Did Mossad claim responsibility? Or do you just know it was those sneaky jews? 5. Never heard anything about this, I would think Iran would shoot them down and have every right to do so. 6. I think I would play the game and elect leaders that would end the sanctions. 7. They can have them if they can make them. Funny you talk about making false accusations and hypocrisy and then seconds later make false accusations. Look in the mirror dude.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
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