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Granny Magda
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Message 46 of 81 (651397)
02-07-2012 10:36 AM
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02-06-2012 5:59 PM


Hi Mr J,
Yeah, I'm in Leicester. Bloody EDL. Bunch of jumped up football hooligans. The scumbags only come here because we're one of the most successful multicultural communities in Britain. There are countless ethnic groups, nationalities and faiths here and we all get on pretty well. The BNP/EDL hate that. It gives the lie to their fascist propaganda.
You moved here recently didn't you? How are you finding it?
Mutate and Survive

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Straggler
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Message 47 of 81 (651402)
02-07-2012 11:48 AM
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02-05-2012 10:45 PM


You seem to have refuted the premise of your own opening post.
Coyote writes:
My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously?
I know this report is from WND, home of a lot of cranks, but one might ask why this isn't reported elsewhere?
Coyote writes:
From USA Today:
Israelis face growing threats in Middle East
USA TODAY
So no, it is not just a conspiracy theory passed on by Whirled Nuts Daily.
You seem to have refuted the premise of your own opening post.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 48 of 81 (651405)
02-07-2012 12:00 PM
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02-07-2012 11:48 AM


Re: You seem to have refuted the premise of your own opening post.
You seem to have refuted the premise of your own opening post.
But that's a report on real things actually happening. What he wants to know is, why didn't the liberal media join WND in pretending that a random blog by a nobody was a statement by the Ayatollah?

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 49 of 81 (651565)
02-08-2012 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by dronestar
02-06-2012 3:43 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
well thanks for the link, though I see why you left it out to begin with. WTF is Zcommunications? Seems even less reputable than WND. What is this some guy’s blog? Is that where you get your data? Seriously?
Honestly I think you are trying to bait here. We were in conflict with one neighboring nation (Iraq), and still are with another neighbor (Afghanistan), and somehow our military presence there is in direct conflict with Iran? Lol you can’t expect me to take you seriously on this topic.

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jar
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Message 50 of 81 (651566)
02-08-2012 10:49 AM
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02-08-2012 10:39 AM


Re: LessonS learned?
We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan even though neither had ever attacked the US in any way, currently have embargoed Iran, have a history of overthrowing legitimately elected governments in Iran, and have troops, bases and Navies surrounding Iran, and you don't think they should feel threatened by the US?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 51 of 81 (651573)
02-08-2012 11:29 AM
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02-08-2012 10:49 AM


Re: LessonS learned?
jar writes:
have a history of overthrowing legitimately elected governments in Iran,
Really? When did WE do that?
and have troops, bases and Navies surrounding Iran,
The sea is international
And as sated earlier the bases and troops in Afghanistan and Iraq don’t have much to do with Iran.
have embargoed Iran
Which mean we aren’t engaged in trade with them.

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jar
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Message 52 of 81 (651584)
02-08-2012 11:56 AM
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02-08-2012 11:29 AM


Re: LessonS learned?
Excuse me, are you really saying that you did not know that the US overthrew the elected government of Iran and installed the Shah? 1953?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 53 of 81 (651603)
02-08-2012 12:38 PM
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02-08-2012 11:56 AM


Re: LessonS learned?
operation AJAX, yeah i forgot.
though the Shah was already the Shah, I think we used the CIA and MI6 to cause a coup to get rid of the PM and put a general in his place.
totally forgot.

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Message 54 of 81 (651630)
02-08-2012 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Artemis Entreri
02-08-2012 12:38 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
quote:
operation AJAX, yeah i forgot.
though the Shah was already the Shah, I think we used the CIA and MI6 to cause a coup to get rid of the PM and put a general in his place.
totally forgot.
Yeah, the overthrow of a democratic government that wasn't doing exactly what it was told, followed by the installation of a brutal puppet dictator to gain strategic influence in the area. Minor detail.
quote:
And as sated earlier the bases and troops in Afghanistan and Iraq don’t have much to do with Iran.
The US elevated and supported another brutal dictator (this time in Iraq) and encouraged a really nasty war with Iran. Another minor detail.
Also the fact that the US has a history of attacking countries that don't do what they want (including Iran). Another minor detail.
Why indeed should Iran feel threatened?

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Message 55 of 81 (651637)
02-08-2012 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coyote
02-05-2012 10:45 PM


Hi Coyote.
I know you got plenty of answers already, but i thought i'd chip in too.
My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously?
What exactly is the liberal establishment? CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, NYT, WJ and other mainstream news outlets?
It is easy too google the WND article and find it covered many other places, mostly blogs and other fringe news sources.
Why do you think that any major media outlet should spend even a second on this nutcase? He, and others, with the same extreme views might a future lone wolf terrorists, but probably not. A lot of peole from all religions and races write bullshit on the internet. Giving them any attention is just more power for them.
I know this report is from WND, home of a lot of cranks, but one might ask why this isn't reported elsewhere?
Because its just some jerk writing on the internet...
Did the Ayatollah say this or not? Does this represent state policy for Iran? And if so, why is it being ignored by the media?
Probably not. It would have reached much higher media attention if he did. You know, like Ahmadinejads misquote about wanting to wipe Israel off the map. He didnt really say that, but your "liberal" media was all over that. CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, all the papers etc.
I dont think any "american liberal" seeks the destruction of Israel. Most people IMO, want what every american president for the past four decades have wanted: Israel going back to pre-1967 borders. And peace.

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Message 56 of 81 (651707)
02-09-2012 1:24 PM
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02-08-2012 4:23 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
so is all that a good justification for killing the jews?

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jar
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Message 57 of 81 (651708)
02-09-2012 1:26 PM
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02-09-2012 1:24 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
Too funny.
Good thing that warthog did not suggest killing all the Jews.
AbE:
You do know that Judaism is a protected religion in Iran, that there are over 20 Synagogues in Tehran alone, that almost 1 in 10 Iranians is a Jew, that there are Hebrew schools and Kosher Butcher shops and that Jews serve in the Iranian army along side Muslims and ...
Edited by jar, : see AbE:
Edited by jar, : add a space

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 58 of 81 (651718)
02-09-2012 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by jar
02-09-2012 1:26 PM


too funny indeed
really? where do you get your data?
I did some simple searches and could not confirm anything you stated.
Jar writes:
that almost 1 in 10 Iranians is a Jew
it seems the population of Jews in Iran is about 25,000 people
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran's proud but discreet Jews
that would mean that the total population of Iran is 25, 000 X 10 = 250, 000 people.
that is strange because some of their cites have a higher population than 250 thousand. (Isfahan has 1.5 million people)
that there are over 20 Synagogues in Tehran alone
All I could find was 18.
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia
maybe we are talking about two different Irans?

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Message 59 of 81 (651720)
02-09-2012 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Artemis Entreri
02-09-2012 2:23 PM


Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...
jar writes:
that there are over 20 Synagogues in Tehran alone
Artie writes:
All I could find was 18. Link
maybe we are talking about two different Irans?
I dunno whose stats are correct here but there seems to be some definite hair splitting going on.
If Iran were as purely anti-Jewish as you seem to be suggesting then it would be a miracle for there to be any synagogues at all wouldn't it?
Link writes:
As tensions between Israel and Iran ratchet up, one community is caught in the middle: Iranian Jews living in Israel. Many of them maintain strong ties with their homeland, and with the possibility of war looming, they're uniquely conflicted.
In a small, cluttered apartment in Jerusalem, Naheet Yacoubi cooks a traditional Persian meal for her Shabbat dinner. Originally from Tehran, she moved to Israel when she was a child. It's easy to find Persian ingredients here, she says.
Some 250,000 people of Persian descent live in Israel, and that migration continues. But Iran still has the second-largest community of Jews in the Middle East, and the two communities are close, says Aaron Yacoubi, Naheet's husband
Link
Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East....I didn't know that. Did you?

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 60 of 81 (651723)
02-09-2012 3:03 PM
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02-09-2012 2:33 PM


Re: Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...
If Iran were as purely anti-Jewish as you seem to be suggesting then it would be a miracle for there to be any synagogues at all wouldn't it?
from a very simplistic perspective, maybe.
At times Spain was anti-Jewish, did that mean that there were no Jews in spain?
At time Russia was anit-Jewish, did that mean there were no jews in Russia?
At times Germany was anti-Jewish, did that mean there were no jews in Germany?
Synagogue is simply a house of prayer.
Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East....I didn't know that. Did you?
I guess it depends on the source. this one says there are more in Turkey than in Iran.
Jewish population by country - Wikipedia

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