"Thuglicans" and the Tea "Federation Party"

Perhaps you should do an OP on examples of hate on any Beck or Rush shows. Perhaps you could include any false statement propagated in either show relative to Islam, Muslims or the Obama Administration, etc.Perhaps if you watched and listened regularly as I do, your understanding and knowledge of the danger we are all in due to ignorance of folks like you regarding what these entities are aspiring to achieve in the nation and the world at large will be increased.Did you watch Beck, this week on the night that he had a room full of immigrants from the old Soviet Union and Ukraine? They spoke of what it was like to loose one's freedom and thrown in the gulag for such crimes as reading Alexander Solzhenitsyn?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

I was four years in the USAF perhaps before you were born, defending the US from the ambitious determination of the USSR and Red China to impose atheistic communism on the planet.Nobody is a military dodger in an era when the military is totally voluntary as a career preference. I was in during the days of draft when you either volunteered or got drafted. After the draft, many went in for the personal benefits it afforded such as education, etc or the lack of another profession.I hope you're enjoying your benefits. People like enterprising rich Rush are paying their share on behalf of us vets. People like Rush and Beck are sentinels sounding the alarm of impending threats to our freedoms, doing a whole lot more than you or I could have in order to preserve the unique freedoms afforded in America.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

One can mine quote controversial statements from any media source. I don't see any blatant falsehoods among your examples; mostly mine quoted out of context.Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Obviously all you know about Beck and Limbaugh is from mine quoted stuff which his critics have touted on their websites, rather than from listening consistently to all of the pertinent knowledge which these American patriots reveal.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

I was in the USAF in the 1950s and now an old geeser at 75, by God's grace. Mmm, somehow I missed that opposition of Jesus to the military in the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. Is there a reference to it elsewhere? Mmm, but Jesus was not nice to the very religious Pharisees whose religious views differed from his. He drove them out of the Temple and called them to their face, snakes. He debated them on their religious views. Nevertheless, he loved them in that he died for their sins and suffered at their hands without resisting, asking God to forgive them, knowing not what they were doing. I've never branded all Muslims as terrorists. I've done what Jesus did by citing the fallacies of their religion. Having become knowledgeable about the Koran, the Haddith and the Sunnahs, I've argued that the terrorism comes from their scriptures which, unlike the admonition of Jesus to love one's enemies, Mohammed and his apostles admonished to fight the infidels until Islam rules the planet. Citing that is not equivalent to hatred of Muslims. It is about citing the source of the terroristic practices, systemic to the religion.The extremists are the fundamentals who practice the fundamentals in their scriptures. The moderate ones are the non-fundys who do not follow the fundamentals. The moderates are only moderate when they are in nations which allow them to be moderate. As soon as Islam reaches about 30% in a nation, the fundamentalists extremists take over, imposing Shariah true Islamic law on all of the populace as is now the case in many nations. Your implication seems to be that Buz does not love because Buz warns of the dangers of ignorance to the ultimate plans of Islam. That is not the case. It's actually the ones who fail to warn of impending danger who unwittingly endanger others. Jesus, prince of peace was the one who said he came not to bring peace, but a sword, meaning that his gospel of ultimate peace would first (abe: draw much bloodshed from violent ones who hate it).God bless you and yours, my brother. Hopefully it's not too late in life for us ole buds to edify one another a tad. Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted in text.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

That's partly why Apocrypha books are not in the canonized scriptures. They are counter to the Old Testament prophets. Jesus alone, fit's the ticket for the messianic prophecies. The scriptures of both religions articulate the fundamentals of each. The fundamentalists are the ones who ascribe to the fundamentals. Mohammed, his Quran and his apostles who wrote the Haddith and the Sunnahs, which articulate the fundamentals were all violent. Thus the fundamentalist Muslims today are the advocates of war and violence against the infidels. Jesus, on the other hand was non-violent, as were his apostles and as are the fundamentalist Christians today.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Information and warnings are not one and the same as hate, revenge and violence, Bluescat.Please, so as for me and others to apologize, cite where any Christian fundamentalists here at EvC have shown hate and/or advocated violence towards anyone by us.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Nations and individuals are apples and oranges. I'm not a conscientious objector, for the most part. Providentially, what our nation has done, militarily and otherwise is often beneficial to the preservation of Israel, the messianic coming kingdom of God.For the record, I have not favored our policy of occupying any Muslim nation, such as we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are just building up Israel's enemies. Let them fight their own wars.I apologize for misconstruing your point about the apocryphal books.As for the horse, etc, I grew up in Wyoming. My dad had a ranch lease on an Indian reservation for some years. We had horses there and we used them in fishing and elk hunting trips in the mountains. (Abe: Often, on the ranch, the sound of coyotes howling in the night would either put us to sleep after retiring or awaken us in the wee hours.)As always, BuzEdited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

This is a blatant blind christophobic assertion. How so are fundamentalist Christians who attest to the fundamentals of the New Testament a threat to humanity?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

They/we read about Armageddon end time events in the scriptures; you know your Christian scriptures. Nothing in the scriptures relative to end time or Armageddon come about by any Christian violence, but by global nations. Christians are merely spectators watching world events leading up to what is described by the prophets. What is considered nonsense and crazy is debatable. Why should our watching as spectators and reporters scare anyone? It's not crazy to take scriptures literal and watch current events play the prophecies out. It's foolish to deny reality happening and go merrily on life's way with one's proverbial head in the sand.Your problem, as usual, is that to admit to one supernatural thing would be to undermine your secularist mindset.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

True fundamentalist Christians are non-violent and harmless.True fundamentalist Muslims on the other hand, are violent and follow the actions of the writers of the Quran, the Haddith and the Sunnahs. The fundamentals in those writings advocate war/Jihad against infidels and world dominance by force.You have yet to cite any true Christian fundamentalist (I say fundamentalist/fundi) who advocates or practices violence.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Have you read any of the violent fundamentals of the Quran, the Haddith or the Sunnah's which have been cited on this board and all over the internet? Do you deny them, or what?True fundamentalist Muslims are the most devout ones who follow the fundamentals of their scriptures. How many times do I need to tell you that? On what basis do you deny it?On the other hand, true Christian fundamentalists are those who practice and teach the fundamentals of the New Testament.Mohammed and his apostles were terrorists. They both advocated terrorism and practiced it. That is what their books teach and how Islam and their god, Allah are to become the dominant world religion and power. That is why fundamentalist Muslim nations impose Shariah law upon their citizenry. That's why Bibles and propagation of any other religion are forbidden in these lands.Freedom rings in Christian oriented nations, on the other hand. Other religions are tolerated. Beck and others are also free to criticize other religions, unlike in Muslim fundi nations. Criticism does not equate to hate or violence.Who are you do judge the religions of the ones you named? Limbaugh, so far as I'm aware has never professed to even be a Christian. If so, he's certainly not a devout practicing one, though he does not practice hate or violence whatsoever. He criticizes and comments on religions, but is tolerant to those callers who disagree with him on his show. Please cite where any on your list have practiced hatred or violence.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Ok Jar, quote the violent passages from the Quran that you've read and explain to us sheeple how we misrepresent what is actually said and just plain a lie. So far you're doing your regular thing; blind assertions. I'm still waiting for one example of violent actions that the NT advocates for Christians against anyone. So far your assertions are totally false.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Then you should be able to help your ole bud out by answering the questions he has been unable to answer so far.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Ditto to you, Xongsmith. Let's see what you have to help Jar out.

LOL, Coragyps. You need to cite where Jesus or his apostles used the sword on anyone or advocated using it on someone in order to advance his kingdom on earth.I've explained why the "prince of peace" said what he said. He knew he and his apostles would all be killed. He also said that whoever follows him should expect to be hated by unbelievers and to be persecuted and killed. History attests to the fact that his prophecy has been fulfilled over the centuries as true Christians who followed his fundamentals have been persecuted and killed by the millions.Jesus also knew that there would be wars over religions. Pagan Rome, popes and bishops of Vatican City and the Muslims have all persecuted and massacred fundamentalist Christians over the centuries.Yes indeed, Jesus's prophecy has been fulfilled, that his gospel would bring a sword, upon him and his followers.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.