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Author Topic:   "Thuglicans" and the Tea "Federation Party"
Theodoric
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Message 52 of 127 (608106)
03-08-2011 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Artemis Entreri
03-08-2011 5:36 PM


Re: is this just a fox bashing session?
video does not exist.
I would say that that is a very deceptive and dishonest comment. The video does exist. It has been pulled because of copyright issues.
you left out Public Union Workers
Please explain this comment.
The urban industrial secular one could never survive without the other (there was an event in USA's past that started in 1861 and ended in 1865, if you would like to read about it), for the secularists to survive, the oppression of the rest of us must continue.
Please enlighten this how this has anything to do with the civil war. Also, how are "non-secularists" oppressed?
If you really dislike America, you know where the door is.
Classic wingnut response when anyone wants to have an America at all different than the wingnuts fantasy. Ever notice how liberals never seem to tell right wingers to leave the country.
yep, just like Wyoming, and the Dakotas [sarcasm]
Not been to the coalfields have you? Maybe you might want to run by some of the large cattle and hog operations. Then tell me about toxic nightmares. Also you might notice those are some of the least populated states in the Union.
historically though it was determined matrilineally (see Sally Hemmings who was only 25% black), so in the Presidents case: from a White vagina = white.
Bullshit. Another in a long line of unfounded assertions. In the US no matter if your mother or father was black, you were considered black. No matter how small the percentage you were still considered black. The thing is most mixed births during the slave era were of black mother and a white father. That is because the white father raped the mother. If a black man had sex with a white woman he would have probably been lynched whther it was consensual or not.

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Theodoric
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Message 65 of 127 (608365)
03-09-2011 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Artemis Entreri
03-09-2011 7:10 PM


Re: business as usual
ahh pedantic as usual, i would expect no less from the likes of you.
Pedantic? You make a claim that it doesn't exist. It does exist. Nothing pedantic there.
RAZD was talking about guiliable ignorant people that idolize being guilible and ignorant. so I added one that he/she forgot, how is that hard to understand?
Another assertion. Care to back it up with a valid argument?
Gee your funny. You actually are going to try to sell the idea that Partus sequitur ventrem is some sort of cover for racism. You seem to be covering up the purpose of laws like this.
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The change also gave cover to the power relationships by which white planters, their sons and/or overseers took advantage of enslaved women. Their illegitimate mixed-race children were "confined" to slave quarters unless fathers took specific legal actions on their behalf. The new law in 1662 meant that white fathers were no longer required to legally acknowledge, support, or emancipate their illegitimate children by slave women. Men could sell their issue or put them to work. Given the prevalence of white males' taking advantage of women slaves, the law resulted in numerous slaves of primarily European ancestry, as European visitors noted in Virginia by the eighteenth century.
You failed to acknowledge my comments that children of a white father and black mother were usually children of rape. Laws like this just allowed the white rapists to not to have to acknowledge these children. This was an easy thing to do because the VAST majority of mixed race children had a white father. It was only in the last century that you saw mixed race children that had a back father. They were considered black by society as a whole as is Barack Obama.
How about showing some examples from the slave era of children with black fathers and white mothers. I doubt they would have been allowed to survive birth.
You present de jure but you completely ignore de facto.
Finally you make this comment
historically though it was determined matrilineally
But can only show that this was part of the slave states and not a universal law.

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Theodoric
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Message 68 of 127 (608491)
03-10-2011 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Artemis Entreri
03-08-2011 5:36 PM


Still waiting
Did you skip replying to this on purpose?
The urban industrial secular one could never survive without the other (there was an event in USA's past that started in 1861 and ended in 1865, if you would like to read about it), for the secularists to survive, the oppression of the rest of us must continue.
Please enlighten this how this has anything to do with the civil war. Also, how are "non-secularists" oppressed?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 76 of 127 (608598)
03-11-2011 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Artemis Entreri
03-11-2011 1:01 PM


Re: Still waiting
In other words, You cannot. Typical.

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Theodoric
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Message 77 of 127 (608599)
03-11-2011 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Artemis Entreri
03-11-2011 1:01 PM


Re: Still waiting
are you a fuckin retard? the link was broken, it did not work, you pedantic little bitch.
Are you clueless? The link was not broken. The video was removed for copyright reasons. Entirely different things. Also, to say it does not exist implies what, that the video does not exist. It does exist. Just not accessible from youtube. Vast difference than not existing and the implication you made by saying it did not exist.
strawman
Partus sequitur ventrem is a straw man. That is what I was trying to say politely, but I see that is lost on you.
I failed to back up your assertions, care to back it up with valid evidence? why it is other people need to do this but you never have too. you are such a hypocrite.
Please point out what assertions you need evidence for. When I get back from vacation, I will gladly do the research to again show, as I have many times in the past, that you knowledge of American history is either nonexistent, or so colored by an agenda, that it might as well be non-existent..

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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