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Author Topic:   Is there Biblical support for the concept of "Original Sin"?
Coyote
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Message 5 of 240 (589556)
11-03-2010 11:08 AM


Biblical support for original sin?
Biblical support for original sin?
The bible is a collection of books cobbled together from multiple authors writing over an extended period. Somewhere one of these authors, a shaman of some kind, came up with the idea of original sin--the idea that man is inherently evil. That in itself is about the most evil thing that shamans, a notoriously shabby lot anyway, have ever come up with. Other shamans passed this idea on and still others eventually incorporated it into what we know as the bible.
Ayn Rand has some thoughts on this, and says it better than I ever could:
What is the nature of the guilt that your teachers call his Original Sin? What are the evils man acquired when he fell from a state they consider perfection? Their myth declares that he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledgehe acquired a mind and became a rational being. It was the knowledge of good and evilhe became a moral being. He was sentenced to earn his bread by his laborhe became a productive being. He was sentenced to experience desirehe acquired the capacity of sexual enjoyment. The evils for which they damn him are reason, morality, creativeness, joyall the cardinal values of his existence. It is not his vices that their myth of man’s fall is designed to explain and condemn, it is not his errors that they hold as his guilt, but the essence of his nature as man. Whatever he wasthat robot in the Garden of Eden, who existed without mind, without values, without labor, without lovehe was not man.
—Ayn Rand Lexicon

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Message 46 of 240 (589883)
11-04-2010 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by jar
11-04-2010 9:26 PM


Original sin
My point is that the concept of Original sin that is marketed by Paul and much of Christianity is simply wrong and not supported by the Bible.
Here, I'll fix that for you:
My point is that the concept of Original sin that is marketed by Paul and much of Christianity is simply wrong and not supported by the Bible.
Nobody has addressed my post, way upthread, that original sin is an evil notion, in my opinion about the vilest notion ever concocted by shamans in their ongoing efforts to control the masses.
This may be a touch off-topic, but it is very germane to the subject.
Does anyone have an opinion on this?

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