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Author Topic:   Is there Biblical support for the concept of "Original Sin"?
ramoss
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Message 165 of 240 (591670)
11-15-2010 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Phat
11-14-2010 11:27 AM


Re: Two Questions
1) If there is no such thing as original sin, why did Jesus need to come and why all the hoopla about Him coming back? The whole idea of God blessing us seems to have less need..less meaning now.
But that's not a huge problem. It just means that we now must be more personally responsible.
Well, that is the whole myth of Christianity. Now, it appears the concept of Original Sin was taken by one sentence from Paul, and expanded upon by Saint Augustus. One sentence in the New testament, usually taken out of context is a mighty thin thread to hang an entire theology on.
As for this whole hoopla about Jesus coming back.. how many generations of Christians have passed that expected Jesus back IN THEIR LIFETIME? After this amount of time, why should we expect him back at all?

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ramoss
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Message 172 of 240 (592327)
11-19-2010 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by kbertsche
11-18-2010 12:59 AM


No, the original audience was not Jewish. The audience were Gentile converts to Christianity. If the audience was Jewish , the Gospels would not have been written in Greek.

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Message 204 of 240 (593139)
11-24-2010 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by kbertsche
11-24-2010 10:41 AM


There are problems with the claims in Acts. 1) Acts was not written by Paul, so, it isn't Paul who is making the claims.
2) When it comes to the theology and information that is discussed by Paul, rather than show any kind of knowledge of what Gamaliel taught, there is instead a contempt of what 'living under the law' meant. The lack of discussion of the theology of Gamaliel, and the very non-Jewish attitude towards the Law suggest this statement is inaccurate.. either a lie by Paul, or a story made up in his name. l

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