Bible Buffet (Run-off From Noah's Flood)

Do people tend to just pick and choose what they believe from the Bible (or unreasonable facsimile thereof) ??? It's worth discussing. Message 75Message 76From Noahs Flood .Inerrancy = Inaccuracy?

Thanks for joining in. Isn't it awesome how you picked the frigging Inquisition as undoubtedly the safest example of Christianity gone amuck -- and were immediately jumped as a dangerous anti-Catholic chauvinistic cow-tipper? How dare you deny those hardworking papists their god-given first amendment right to uh, burn us at the stake? You HATER !!!All with a straight face, too. It's a funny world, man Anyway, you and Huntard were having a nice discussion about how the New Testament mediates Old Testament legalism, the universality of the Ten Commandments, etc. I think this could lead somewhere very much worth going. A couple paragraphs about the ethical imperatives in the Dominical sayings. Examples from your own life. Yeah?

Hi hooah, I've really been enjoying your posts lately. I've been meditating on this one pretty hard, because I don't want to come off as just disagreeing with you; but I do hope that I can add something to your understanding, or clarify things maybe, if I'm smart enough. Agree really hard. And when you read it that way, as literature, you can see that there are different genres involved. And these have to be dealt with in different ways, yes? Here's where I think things get too fuzzy. It is allegory, amongst many other things. Just as an example, the bit that bred this thread, the Deluge myth, is three different strands of literature woven together. At the bottom is a narrative text culled off some ancient poetry, full of puns and language-rich material. Basically similar to the Viking sagas. Then on top of that is a folk tale from oral tradition, that evolved in the course of the ministry of the northern prophets. Then on top of that is a set of inline notes and commentary from the Persian restoration.So while it has elements of allegory, it isn't open to "a multitude of interpretations, none more right or wrong than the next." It tells you right in the text what the interpretation is. This part, the rainbow for example, means he learned his lesson. No matter how bad he fucks up, he won't just erase the chalkboard and start over again. It repenteth him that he made us, sure; but it also repenteth him that he drowned us. He is learning from his mistakes, he is trying to improve. This process continues, covenant after covenant, until he steps up and takes full responsibility for the whole mess.The lying buck-passing apologetics that you are concerned about, isn't a legitimate interpretation of the text. The text is all about giving up idolatry, step by step. The apologetics is about making the text into a new idol.

I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit. I've been assuming that you are familiar with this story. You see? It tells you right there what that part Means. It isn't a matter of what I want, it's just the plain sense of how the text portrays the character. I don't get to twist it around however I please, that sort of behavior is for people in denial. The story says what it says. No worries there; just as he is depicted as first among idols, so also was he the last. So now they worship the book, about giving up idols. Funny damned world, indeed.

I'm trying to get to the heart of this "pick and choose" question. When Huntard asked you about Old Testament commandments, you deflected his question with New Testament references. (Apparently it's ok for you to have a tattoo, because, Peter had a dream about some edible vermin?) When I ask you about New Testament commandments, you dodge over into theology about forgiveness.Are you just a hypocrite? If so, fine. You are forgiven. But in such a case, you cannot speak with authority. People who tell us that their interpretation of the scripture is definitive, need to be able to show how that interpretation works out in their lives. All your sins are forgiven. Your beliefs are your opinions, about your faith. Your faith is invisible to us. So, what are your works? When is the last time, that you did one of those hard things the gospels tell us to do, and how did that work out?