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pink sasquatch
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Message 4 of 208 (160151)
11-16-2004 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-16-2004 12:22 PM


gene duplication
The creos have said that no new information can ever be added - and even scientists admitt this.
I'm not sure which scientists you are referring to...
One form of mutation is duplication, in which DNA sequence is duplicated - in some cases duplicating an entire gene or multiple genes. At this point many argue that nothing new has been created, instead there are just two identical (redundant) copies of a duplicated gene.
However, subsequent mutation acts on the two copies of the genes independently, and so they change, diverging from each other over time. This divergence can produce two genes with different functions from what was originally a single gene. In this way, genetic "information" is added...
Hopefully that makes sense; does it help answer your question?

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pink sasquatch
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Message 9 of 208 (160181)
11-16-2004 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Philip
11-16-2004 4:20 PM


Re: NS vs Mutation
most evos seem to willfully confuse NS with true mutation to fit their unregulated evo-bias
Name one. Seriously - it should be easy to do since "most" do it.
Natural selection is NOT a form of mutation, so there is no way to confuse it with "true mutation".
Mutation occurs. The result can be neutral, bad, or good, depending on the mutation and the environment.
Natural selection is the step that weeds out the bad and keeps the good, to put it simply. Natural selection is a process that comes after mutation.

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Message 11 of 208 (160253)
11-16-2004 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by mike the wiz
11-16-2004 5:48 PM


Re: NS vs Mutation
I'm not saying mutation is impossible for the second mechanism, I'm thinking that very big explosive changes could have God's fingers on them.
Hey Mike,
This statement isn't too far off from JAD's Prescribed Evolution Hypothesis. JAD's view is that "naturally" occurring mutation can account for some variance, but that major genetic (chromosome-level) changes were "supernaturally" preprogrammed into DNA to permit major species-level changes.

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