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Author Topic:   ID as Science vs. ID as Creationism
bertvan
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Message 41 of 46 (457820)
02-25-2008 5:44 PM


tesla:
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what ID advocates want, is the official announcement by science as a whole and to be taught in the classroom, that because no proof either way is evident in science, that it does not endorse either aspect "at this time" but that the "potential" is there.
Bertvan: That's right. We object to science endorsing materialism. Science need not declare that materialism has been abandoned. Both materialism and volition/freewill are possibilities. In my opinion materialism precludes the possibility of theism. Volition/freewill as a non-supernatural force of nature allows (but does not demand) the possibility of a personal god.
If science endorses materialism, and the universe is actually not a deterministic, materialist device, then science would merely be a fantasy about a imaginary reality.

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