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Author Topic:   The omniscience of god?
Modulous
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Message 5 of 70 (530735)
10-14-2009 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Blzebub
10-13-2009 2:03 PM


The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them, whilst he's doing a bit of light genocide. You'd think he'd know which people were which!
That was what I thought when I read that bit recently. It is even strange when you look back a few plagues to say Exodus 9:
quote:
Exd 9:4 {NIV} But the Lord will make a distinction between the livestock of Israel and that of Egypt, so that no animal belonging to the Israelites will die.' "
So YHWH can tell who owns what cow - but not whether a person is an Israelite or not? It doesn't make sense.
Unless, of course, it was a retrodicted explanation for pre-existing somewhat mysterious traditions
The early god of the bible often seems to be less than omnipresent. He seems to have a finite presence in clouds or tabernacles or the like and limited knowledge but with ultimate wisdom (further back than Cain and Abel...Adam hid from God). It is the later works that move him from a superman to a amorphous all knowing super big brother.

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Message 19 of 70 (530878)
10-15-2009 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by jaywill
10-15-2009 9:53 AM


Re: a few glitches
But I bet you spend far more time railing against the God of the Bible than you do visiting forums and trying to debunk Father Christmas, Thor, Zues, Neptune, Aphrodite or Fairies at the bottom of the garden.
So this disproportionate vehement treatment of the Bible's God causes me to suspect that the prospect of His reality is of far greater concern to you.
Or maybe the fact that people believe YHWH's existence and live their lives and adopt social policies based on the writings of the bronze aged people and beyond who worshipped him. As opposed to the others who don't pose as much of a social concern.
Or, yeah, maybe its because he's worried that YHWH is really real. Believe whichever you like - I'm sure your biases will err you towards the latter.
But if there was a large group of people that said we shouldn't mass produce insulin because it went against Thor's will or that glasses were an abomination and should be banned because Wotan's one-eyed nature proves it. Then you would definitely see a lot more activity in debunking Thor and Wotan.
You seem to be of the opinion that whenever god isn't omni-present or omniscient this is god seeding clues about his future incarnation as man. Do you have any evidence that this was gods plan all along or is it just apologetics designed to patch up unusual or confusing character inconsistencies in a book?

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