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hooah212002
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Message 3 of 80 (520062)
08-19-2009 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
08-19-2009 5:55 AM


First question comes to mind which did not jump out at me:
1: how many animals TOTAL do you suppose were on the Ark?
Provided what your answer is will determine my next line of questions.

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Message 32 of 80 (520367)
08-21-2009 7:44 AM
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08-21-2009 6:56 AM


Well, with your grammatical fuckfest you call a post, I had a hard time swallowing any of the drivel you typed. It makes it hard to take someone serious when they use words like "cleverer"
The "design" is what makes evolution theory harder to prove. Always people have tried to get around it, but here I am saying - "there is design", now the burden of proof is to disprove the truism in saying that "there is a different design of wing in a bird, than a bat". That is a barrier! "There is a different design in butterfly wings than bird wings." That is a barrier!
So, you make a totally random, factless HYPOTHESIS, and the burden of proof is on US to disprove it? Science doesn't work that way pal.
The remainder of your nonsense is nothing more than you stating what you guess about the world around you, having no scientific knowledge of any sort, making totally random assumptions, then telling us to prove you wrong. I am a devout Pastafarian, prove MY god, the FSM, doesn't exist. Can't do it? Well then, I guess you are wrong and I am right. Because as we all know, it was the FSM who created some mountains and midgets first.

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Message 33 of 80 (520372)
08-21-2009 7:56 AM
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08-20-2009 7:30 AM


You have to have pondered it at least once. i want to hear how many TOTAL animals were aboard the Ark. Then, explain how they were cared for.
Then, how the food was stored.
Then, how the dung was dealt with.
Once you have crapatulated (my word) about that, explain how one man, using NO modern technology more than maybe a pulley type system, built the largest wooden ship ever conceived. How much help did he have? The answers are staring you in the face.
Edited by hooah212002, : comma's not properly placed, or a lack thereof
Edited by hooah212002, : fixed last sentence

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Message 34 of 80 (520376)
08-21-2009 8:33 AM
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08-20-2009 7:48 AM


Why would God, Him being clever, indeed the cleverest, make anything other than that which works?
Let's say, for example, you invent something. You use absolutely no inspiration from anything else, thus making it completely and utterly original.
Do you make something that "just works"?
Think about the human head, for example. Doesnt it seem a wee bit too big for our neck? How many other animals have a problem with things such as whiplash? IMO, humans have one of the worst physical "designs" of all of the animal kingdom.
Blindspot? poor peripheral vision? Back problems? Allergies?

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Message 44 of 80 (520411)
08-21-2009 12:11 PM
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08-21-2009 11:58 AM


This wouldn't produce any magical transitional fossils to appear, unfortunately for you.
We don't need "magical transitional fossils"....we already have real ones.
You are the one who needs the magic bit to try and prove anything.

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Message 45 of 80 (520414)
08-21-2009 12:15 PM
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08-21-2009 11:58 AM


Even if a bat is a kind of bird, which I doubt it says, because usually the bible doesn't mean what an atheist states it means.
Oddly enough, Atheists usually know the bible better than people like yourself. Why? because we actually STUDY. Not just read and believe one particular bible, but rather, compare ALL accounts of ALL the copies available to us.
We also read comprehensively. Study the words and seek the truth.

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Message 49 of 80 (520424)
08-21-2009 12:54 PM
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08-21-2009 12:51 PM


I wouldn't be that bothered but in the past I have came across people who do this all of the time - they are hand-picking silly little examples to try and disprove the verse, when the message has nothing to do with what they are claiming
So, you've met alot of young earther's, eh?

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Message 59 of 80 (520456)
08-21-2009 2:53 PM
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08-21-2009 2:27 PM


Re: Imagination versus evidence
You're on a bad day Mod. by all means invoke even bigger words, more impressive factoids and the like, this will not affect the facts whatsoever.
.....other than sophisticated statements that don't cut the deal.
Your lack of knowledge does not make his statements false. If you can't understand it, that is your fault. It does not make you right and him wrong.

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Message 62 of 80 (520471)
08-21-2009 3:52 PM
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08-21-2009 2:27 PM


Re: Imagination versus evidence
I can't change a lifetime of worldview, and naturalist thinking, where evidence is king.
To my mind, the facts are more powerful to me than weak hypothetical "evidence".
So you boast about being willingly ignorant?
Give me your definiton of facts:.
Now give me your definition of evidence.
Especially when all those cladistics are mostly nice artwork rather than factual.
riiiight. Because no actual work or study went into creating them.
All my work comes from my own head.
I think you've successfully diagnosed yourself. Now please, immediately seek a library. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
Can increase my knowledge if you want, but it won't change my opinions about fact and hypothetics.
You would be surprised at what real knowledge will do for you. You might learn what actual facts are, not what hovind tells you are facts.

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