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Kinds are not related

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Coragyps
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Message 8 of 80 (520091)
08-19-2009 10:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
08-19-2009 5:55 AM

I believe(for now I believe it) "kinds" are groups of animals of the same design-type,
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That sounds pretty good, as long as you let me put "design-type" in scare quotes. All animals do, indeed, seem to be of the Eukaryote Kind, and even more specifically of the Opisthokont Kind. You and I included, Mike. But how does that help the creationist cause?
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08-19-2009 10:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 9 by themasterdebator
08-19-2009 10:38 AM

as Darwin did when he predicted DNA).
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Did not! (/off-topic snark)
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08-21-2009 10:17 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by mike the wiz
08-21-2009 7:13 AM

Think about it. Let's say there was 7 majorly different bird species taken on the Ark.
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So, perhaps, seven "created kinds?" Look at your book, in Deuteronomy chapter 14:
11Of all clean birds ye shall eat. 12But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, 13And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind, 14And every raven after his kind, 15And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, 16The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan, 17And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant, 18And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
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How many "kinds" are specifically named there, and how many more implied? And that's only "unclean" kinds, Mike.
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08-21-2009 12:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 46 by mike the wiz
08-21-2009 12:38 PM

but trust an atheist to find it, and take it completely out of context.
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"Completely out of context," how, Mike? "Bat" is the last of a big friggin' list of BIRDS,, fer catssake, so it is "taken out of context?" It's not an "aside," it's part of the list!
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And how 'bout all the "kinds" of ravens, etc., in that list?
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08-21-2009 1:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 48 by mike the wiz
08-21-2009 12:51 PM

It's YOUR book!
Of all clean birds ye shall eat. But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle,.......the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
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It's stating outright that a bat is a bird of which ye shall not eat, Mike. Read your own book before you complain about how I read it.
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08-21-2009 3:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 58 by mike the wiz
08-21-2009 2:27 PM

Re: Imagination versus evidence
the facts are more powerful to me than weak hypothetical "evidence".
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How can you type that without having your head explode?
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