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Author Topic:   Two wrongs don't make a right (the (ir)rationality of revenge) - also gun control
iano
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Message 333 of 452 (522407)
09-03-2009 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 331 by Legend
09-03-2009 7:16 AM


Re: Once again: why should I carry\have a gun?
Legend writes:
My position in this thread has always been supporting the right of ordinary citizens to have guns at home and to shoot any intruders.
Em... but wouldn't that simply increase the likelyhood of intruders taking up arms to counter the threat against them?
TIP:
Have you ever taken a lungful of CO2 in? Try it someday - it has the same effect as someone punching you in the face. So I'd suggest taking your finger off the 9mm trigger and downgrading your Home Defence Systems to a strategically place CO2 fire extinguisher or two.
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iano
Member (Idle past 1970 days)
Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 338 of 452 (522430)
09-03-2009 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 335 by hooah212002
09-03-2009 9:35 AM


Re: Once again: why should I carry\have a gun?
hooah writes:
Put yourself in the mind of a burglar. Are you going to rob:
a) the defenseless rich old woman?
or
b) the middle age man whom possibly has a Beretta 9mm?
do you want to risk getting shot? or do you want to escape cleanly? Maybe hes got only non-lethal rounds, so as to maim you until police arive. uh-oh, you should have chosen the helpless old lady.
The middle-aged man is more likely to prove a problem than the old lady quite aside from his having a gun or no. Which would mean only rich old ladies get burgled in society? Clearly that's not the way burglary happens - for want of sufficient rich old ladies.
There is nothing stopping the old lady having a gun anyway so the question becomes one of likelyhood - in the event guns were made legal and available. If I were a burglar dealing with inestimatable likelyhood of facing a gun then I'd be sure to carry a gun with me.
All of which increase the chances of folk getting killed whether innocent burglary victims or guilty of burgling victims.
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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 375 of 452 (522580)
09-04-2009 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Legend
09-04-2009 5:37 AM


Re: Once again: why should I carry\have a gun?
Legend writes:
No. The intruders can much more safely neutralise the 'threat' to them by simply not invading in the first place. If the price for something is prohibitive, most people won't go for it.
Hi Legend..
Armed-to-the-teeth-America can act as our guide. Do they have burglaries there still? Or dramatically less burglaries than here? Perhaps a comparable guide can be hold-ups of liquor stores and the like in which both sides arm themselves and it's a question of shoot-first-ask-questions later - as countless YouTube videos make plain.

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