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Coragyps
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Message 29 of 92 (177633)
01-16-2005 7:09 PM


Some of the most telling factors pointing out our close kinship to chimps (and other great apes) are the "broken" genes we share - not just our GLO pseudogene that Rrhain mentions, but a urate oxidase gene and a whole raftfull of genes that even many other primates use for odorant receptors and vomeronasal organ receptors.
That, and we have the exact same bone count and muscle count as chimps - different shapes for many, but the same ones. Including the muscle that would flex our tails if we didn't have fused coccyges (= more than one coccyx.)

  
Coragyps
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Message 34 of 92 (177660)
01-16-2005 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Juhrahnimo
01-16-2005 7:58 PM


Re: Folds, errors, etc?
Well, all that has CHANGED recently! What a surprise! They have found JUNK DNA plays a VERY important role after all!
What very important role would that be? For an example, tell us what function the GLO or urate oxidase pseudogenes have in apes and people.
I'm aware of the Hirotsune, et al., paper in Nature in 2003 that was the first-ever documentation of a "use" for a pseudogene. Do you have more recent information that shows "a VERY important role" for any others?

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Coragyps
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Message 36 of 92 (177674)
01-16-2005 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by TheLiteralist
01-16-2005 2:34 PM


Re: Can we assume the Creator's motives in design?
Yet, for the cephalopoids, the water is already filtering out many photons and, so they get a reversed design to make up for that fact? Just a guess.
Won't somebody think of the poor fishes and whales with their "designed-for-air" retinas???!!!

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Coragyps
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Message 51 of 92 (177808)
01-17-2005 10:52 AM
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01-16-2005 11:49 PM


Re: Folds, errors, etc?
You might also want to check out the excellent POST # 13 on this thread.
I read it before I posted, and I'm quite aware of that subject. I ask again: do you have any references to the scientific literature showing any function for the GLO, urate oxidase, or odor receptoe pseudogenes that chimps and humans share? The ones that are "broken" in the same places, and make both chimps and us unable to make vitamin C, oxidize uric acid, or smell a wide variety of things that other primates can smell?

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