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Author Topic:   Objections to Evo-Timeframe Deposition of Strata
DBlevins
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Message 43 of 310 (186370)
02-17-2005 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Faith
02-17-2005 5:55 PM


I'm sure other's here have responded similarily but I just had to make the comment that you are welcome to question the validity of evidence presented and that is part of what scientists do. The other side of that is being willing to accept the weight of evidence as indicating the understanding of processes as they occur. If you disagree with something, gather the evidence, present your case and hopefully as more evidence is gathered to support your hypothesis, it will be accepted. Scientists aren't going to throw away theories that help with our understanding of how things work just because someone disagress with the conclusions but I am sure they will (we are human though after all and some do have their pet theories) when presented with enough evidence. As the saying goes, though "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!"
By the way, good to see you asking questions and presenting arguments and at least attempting to learn. Take the time to learn. Open a book, take a class, go to your library, ask questions. It never hurts to learn something new. You've definitly helped me to understand evolutionary processes more.

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DBlevins
Member (Idle past 3806 days)
Posts: 652
From: Puyallup, WA.
Joined: 02-04-2003


Message 98 of 310 (186633)
02-18-2005 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
02-18-2005 6:32 PM


Re: Being a bit easy
All I've been doing is defending my reasonable scenario, that comes originally from creationist presentations, from ridiculous objections to it. Gardens and deltas don't do justice to the actual appearance of the strata. I haven't brought up anything new. I didn't want to get into this argument and my few offerings are perfectly reasonable and have not been reasonably refuted.
And the fact is your scenario is not reasonable because it rejects the evidence that contradicts your proposition. You've been shown processes that detail how a geological column might come about and those processes that might affect it. That you refuse to educate yourself about geological processes and earth science is plainly frustrating. Your arguments have most certainly been reasonably refuted.
As far as deposition goes, Paleosols have been discussed which you seem to reject. Ash deposits, I don't think have been discussed but they also reject your proposition that climatic/atmospheric events destroy them. As an example, Mt. Mazama Ash. It can be found throughout the Northwest and is a great indicator for archaeological chronology. It is a large and distinguishable layer in the stratigraphic layer. 7,000 years and that layer is STILL there.
Mt. Mazama EPOD
Or how about the Palouse Hills which have a large layer made up of Loess deposits layed down during the last Ice Age. Erosion hasn't worn the hills down to the bedrock, or is that not what you would expect in your scenario? By the way, Loess in these hills were deposited by wind in a relatively stable climate.
EUREKA FLAT: A LONG-TERM DUST-PRODUCTION ENGINE OF THE PALOUSE LOESS
EUREKA FLAT: A LONG-TERM DUST-PRODUCTION ENGINE OF THE PALOUSE LOESS, PACIFIC NORTHWEST, USA
SWEENEY, Mark R.1, GAYLORD, David R.1, BUSACCA, Alan J.2, and HALVER, Brandt A.1, (1) Dept. of Geology, Washington State Univ, Pullman, WA 99164-2812, sweeney@wsunix.wsu.edu, (2) Dept. of Crop and Soil Sciences, Washington State Univ, Pullman, WA 99164-6420
edited because of wierd copying error.
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