Incompatibility of Geology with YEC

Faith,There is a topic on Angular Unconformities here just a couple weeks old. Can you comment there on how you might think a global flood could produce such a formation.Angular Unconformities falsify the flood with not much wiggle room. It would be evolutionary falsification equivalent of finding hominid remains inside the fossilized rib cage of a Jurassic dated T-Rex.Also Angular Unconformities are very common and stand as a stark and powerful testimony of a long and complicated geological history.

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I dont see what the problem is

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The problem is insurmountable from a YEC perspective and is why YEC's are largely quiet about them and avoid discussing them.The beauty about angular unconformities is that it does not require a technical geology background to understand how they were formed. There are no assumptions about things, like decay rates, that you cannot see and feel. They can be observed directly and you can often put your hand on the contact zone.BTW unconformities are decidely not formed by hard rocky parts sliding around via tectonic forces with some parts ending up "over and under each other". The upper layer material is often embedded in the lower level over an uneven eroded surface. Another reason why this is obviously an incorrect model is that the upper layer often extends for miles. There is no way a piece of rock of this length to thickness ratio could just be sliding around without crumbling apart, especially if the material is soft from just being laid down as is often believed by YEC.I invite you take a moment and look at the evidence.Take for example Siccar point the lower formation consists of slate that has be laid down, cemented and went thru metamorphis (shale -> slate). In addition, the lower layer shows signs of bending indicating great heat and pressure consistant with the metamorphis. This layer was buried deep at one time.This layer was lifted, upturned via tectonic forces and eroded with a definable horizon.Next a second period of deposition occured and components of the lower layer are present, mixed with the newly deposited sandy material. This layer was also lithofied (cemented). Next tilting of these combined layes. And finally the upper layer was eroded to expose the contact point.The Great Unconformity at the bottom of the grand canyon present even a more difficult case. The bottom layer consists of several different types of rock including intrusions. The upper layers are several thousands of feet thick and tens of miles long.These sequence of events dictates long, long lengths of time.I don't know why Christians resist this notion of deep time that is really beyond our puny comprehension. We know that the universe consists of immense distances and scale. Why not also time? It is as though YEC Christians need to shrink God down to human scale. It must be insulting to God. Edited by troxelso, : Spelling mistake

Which layer in this interesting formation from Yellowstone Park is the flood layer?Are we to believe that all three sediment layers are laid down during the flood year with two intervening subarial basalt flows?

This is simultaneously imaginative and completely and abundantly preposterous.First in many unconformities the upper layer contains pieces or breccias of the lower layer. This is splendidly illustrated in this imageNo such page | The University of EdinburghBroken chunks of the lower layer are intermixed in a matrix of the upper layer for the first 3 to 4 feet. Within this transition zone there are clearly sedimentary layers and even cross-bedding. Protuding parts of the lower layer were being eroded by the enviroment while the sand of the upper layer was being deposited.I will concur on the rather large earthquakes that would occur in your scenario. It is wonder that the fragile hoodoos of Bryce Canyon survived. Bryce canyon is just over 100 miles away.http://www.planetware.com/...-national-park-utah-utbry14.jpgNow that I think about, how can one explain the delicate features of Bryce in a violently flooded landscape? Ahh a topic for a later time, perhaps.

Why not!!I dunno two dry land placement of basaltic layers in a flood year might present some issues I would think.The balast layers in the below image are placed in air not a wet environment or underwater.http://www.sammcgees.com/lava_layers.jpgHow do we know this basalt was place on dry land? Well when lava flows under water it forms characteristic pillows or shatters into palagonite.http://geology.about.com/...andforms/ig/pillowlava/index.htmSan Diego State University Department of Geological Sciences – Page not found

If you can post here you can visit these links. Perhaps you do not want to visit these "links".The basaltic layers with verical column formations shown are not flattened pillows and to suggest such is ludicrous.

Where does one get the koolaid you are drinking.It is not problem with OE deposition . Look the bottom layer was eroded with ribs protuding as is present today. Deposition began with sand finding its way lower parts of the eroded surface. At the same time the protuding ribs eroded and fell into the growing layers of sand.When you first said you are not prepared to discuss unconformities I was unaware just how unprepared you were. I think it is best not to discuss this anymore.BTW. If you can visit and post here than you can visit those links. Just cut and paste the url's if you have to.

Sounds like your issue is with your configured DNS servers in your network setting or you have some overactive popup prevention software installed.The Domain Name Service (DNS) translates domain names to IP numbers. If these are incorrect or the servers that you have entered are down then you will get the behavior you described. When you click on a link your computer cannot translate the domain to an IP. It could be that you can get to because you system has the translation to cached.A virus can mess with these settings.You may not need to get a new system. Check with your ISP on what is the correct DNS to use and check on the ones that are configured. If you are using DHCP, where these are set automatically, you can solve this by resetting the connection. This could save you some $$$.To test this - if you can go to thishttp://209.68.18.34/lava_layers.jpgbut not thishttp://www.sammcgees.com/lava_layers.jpgThat would be a direct clue that the only problem is that your DNS is misconfigured.BTW best to cut and paste the url's into your location window to eliminate some problem with popup software preventing the creation of a new page. If the above works but you cannot click on link then some protection software is tweaked a little to paranoid.Now the admin will banish me to the wilderness for responding. Oh well, I will get more work done that way... Edited by troxelso, : No reason given.Edited by AdminPD, : Warning